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Old 11-10-2019, 08:37 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Guilty of what ?asking if the vp was shaking down foreign countries for money ? sounds like a fair question -I for sure would not bring it up on the campaign trail unless I did some fact checking first -which is just what he did -a real American would want to know about the vp behavior not the one who asked about it —
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Old 11-10-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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"House Republicans acknowledged that they have no witnesses and no documents to dispute the main facts concerning President Trump’s impeachable conduct: a demand from Ukraine for dirt on a political rival; withholding of aid vital to Ukraine’s defense against Russia; concealing evidence of the scheme by moving a transcript to a secret server; and threatening the tipster who alerted Congress to gross malfeasance. They admitted all that? Well, in a manner of speaking they did."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...rce=reddit.com

The facts are clear:
  • Trump tried to extort Ukraine into providing him with illegal election assistance.
  • Trump planned this all along, which is why he sent his personal lawyer Giuliani as an advance man to set it all up.
  • The military aid approved by Congress was withheld before the phone call to increase pressure on Ukraine.
Extortion and conspiracy to extort are federal crimes. Impeach Trump and indict Giuliani. We have to if law and order is ever going to prevail in the White House.
You can keep calling it illegal election assistance till Election Day, and that doesn’t make it true.
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Old 11-10-2019, 09:50 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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He's guilty of saying exactly what he said.
Read the transcript.


The House will impeach him because they can. The Senate will not remove him and the backlash will cause the Dems to lose everything they gained in 2018. All those close races in The House will flip back.


Build the wall.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Every single day, we get more delusions from lefties that just can't accept reality. It's like dealing with children who don't get their way, and will not stop pouting about it. What a bunch of sore losers the angry hateful leftist mob has become. Sad. But Trump is your president, and you are just all going to have to learn to accept that until 2024, when another republican is elected to lead this great nation into a continued era of prosperity and greatness.

Lefties can love it, hate it, or hopefully leave it, but they will not hold the rest of America back with their silly social experiments, bathroom insanity, and plots to divide the public in an effort to control the people. What America has always valued most is freedom, and if you don't love it, you will never love America.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:26 PM
 
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The whistleblower heard the story secondhand? Um...really?
yes. that fact has been known since the beginning. the information has since been confirmed by people that were on the phone call.


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Your honor, isn't that called 'hearsay' and inadmissible as evidence?

we're not currently in a court of law and hearsay is acceptable in filing a whistleblower complaint.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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Every day we get more tantrums from Trumpies that just can't accept the fact that their idol broke the law. A prime example is Sen. Graham -- he refuses to read or listen to any testimony, completely shirking his constitutional duty to serve as an impartial juror. The man needs to grow up.


Trump supporters are predictable when facts don't go their way.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Every day we get more tantrums from Trumpies that just can't accept the fact that their idol broke the law. A prime example is Sen. Graham -- he refuses to read or listen to any testimony, completely shirking his constitutional duty to serve as an impartial juror. The man needs to grow up.


Trump supporters are predictable when facts don't go their way.

Presenting the facts and reality as they are is not a tantrum. Lefties on the other hand have become an angry and derange mob hell bent on starting a civil war over their personal dislike of Donald Trump. How silly.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:43 PM
 
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"house republicans acknowledged that they have no witnesses

insane lie

and no documents to dispute the main facts concerning president trump’s impeachable conduct:

no impeachable conduct

a demand from ukraine for dirt on a political rival;

total fantasy

withholding of aid vital to ukraine’s defense against russia;

didn't happen, and who cares?

concealing evidence of the scheme by moving a transcript to a secret server;

lol!!!!! S.o.p.

and threatening the tipster who alerted congress to gross malfeasance.

there were no threats. What planet are you on?

they admitted all that? Well, in a manner of speaking they did."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...rce=reddit.com

the facts are clear:
  • trump tried to extort ukraine into providing him with illegal election assistance.
not a fact.
  • tump planned this all along, which is why he sent his personal lawyer giuliani as an advance man to set it all up.
there was no "it".
  • the military aid approved by congress was withheld before the phone call to increase pressure on ukraine.
wrong

extortion and conspiracy to extort are federal crimes.

of course, they are, but nothing you have alleged is within a million miles of those crimes.

impeach trump and indict giuliani. We have to if law and order is ever going to prevail in the white house.
partisan baloney.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:48 PM
 
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Jennifer Rubin is a typical left-wing hack. Every word out of her mouth is a lie.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:53 PM
 
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Ignore this thread.

The thread title is fake.

This is from a nonsense opinion piece.

That's all.
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