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Old 11-11-2019, 05:46 AM
 
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In the Senate, Republicans will surely stand by their party, not their country. Trump won't be removed. That might hurt their reelection chances in 2020.
In BOTH houses of congress, democrats will surely stand by their party, not their country.
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Old 11-11-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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Trump admitted to it. So Mulvaney.

Bribery and extortion -- definitely still crimes. Definitely impeachable crimes.

Pompeo, Perry, Pence, Bolton, ... could all testify to Trump's innocence. Let's hear what they have to say.
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Old 11-11-2019, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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another liberal wet dream.


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"House Republicans acknowledged that they have no witnesses and no documents to dispute the main facts concerning President Trump’s impeachable conduct: a demand from Ukraine for dirt on a political rival; withholding of aid vital to Ukraine’s defense against Russia; concealing evidence of the scheme by moving a transcript to a secret server; and threatening the tipster who alerted Congress to gross malfeasance. They admitted all that? Well, in a manner of speaking they did."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...rce=reddit.com

The facts are clear:
  • Trump tried to extort Ukraine into providing him with illegal election assistance.
  • Trump planned this all along, which is why he sent his personal lawyer Giuliani as an advance man to set it all up.
  • The military aid approved by Congress was withheld before the phone call to increase pressure on Ukraine.
Extortion and conspiracy to extort are federal crimes. Impeach Trump and indict Giuliani. We have to if law and order is ever going to prevail in the White House.
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Old 11-11-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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In the Senate, Republicans will surely stand by their party, not their country. Trump won't be removed. That might hurt their reelection chances in 2020.
It'll help his reelection chances, because no matter what comes out of these hearings, the last thing America will hear before November 2020 will be Trump's voice, and Trump always makes controversy work in his favor by attacking those who tried to take him down - including the women who accused him of sexual misconduct, remember that?

The more you attack Trump, the more he wins support.
Trump was never going to lose 2020, not with an economy like this, so Democrats threw a Hail Mary, hoping to somehow sway 2/3 of the Senate.
They thought at least some Republicans in the House would support the inquiry resolution, but not one did (and 2 Democrats also voted No), and that's an indication that it'll fail miserably in the Senate too.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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It'll help his reelection chances...
The more you attack Trump, the more he wins support.
Trump's approval ratings have been stuck in the low 40's for the last year-and-a-half. There is no more support for him to gain. He is at his absolute ceiling. The roughly 55% who do not approve of him are dead set in their views, they will not vote for him no matter what he does.

There will be no impeachment backlash to help Trump. His approval numbers won't budge.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:47 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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In the end it won't matter. The impeachment vote following the Senate proceedings won't be based on facts. Instead, the proceedings will be a spin factory in which Republicans will focus entirely on polemics and red herrings. DT will retain his rather broad seat, albeit with an asterisk on his record.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
"House Republicans acknowledged that they have no witnesses and no documents to dispute the main facts concerning President Trump’s impeachable conduct: a demand from Ukraine for dirt on a political rival; withholding of aid vital to Ukraine’s defense against Russia; concealing evidence of the scheme by moving a transcript to a secret server; and threatening the tipster who alerted Congress to gross malfeasance. They admitted all that? Well, in a manner of speaking they did."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...rce=reddit.com

The facts are clear:
  • Trump tried to extort Ukraine into providing him with illegal election assistance.
  • Trump planned this all along, which is why he sent his personal lawyer Giuliani as an advance man to set it all up.
  • The military aid approved by Congress was withheld before the phone call to increase pressure on Ukraine.
Extortion and conspiracy to extort are federal crimes. Impeach Trump and indict Giuliani. We have to if law and order is ever going to prevail in the White House.
The Ukraine hoax continues on...

I bet they've got Trump now, for sure.

How about casting a ballot against Trump in the next election, rather than trying a kangaroo court impeachment to win votes?
The Democrats are a lost and desperate bunch.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Trump's approval ratings have been stuck in the low 40's for the last year-and-a-half. There is no more support for him to gain. He is at his absolute ceiling. The roughly 55% who do not approve of him are dead set in their views, they will not vote for him no matter what he does.

There will be no impeachment backlash to help Trump. His approval numbers won't budge.
I suspect his disapproval numbers will budge somewhat.

25% or so are likely to stick their fingers in their ears, ala Lindsey Graham.

But his disapproval numbers in the 55% give or take a bit, before any public hearings at all. Difficult to believe this will stay the same once the public hearings are held.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Nellie Ohr will crack this case wide open, that's why she's on their list.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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Every day we get more tantrums from Trumpies that just can't accept the fact that their idol broke the law. A prime example is Sen. Graham -- he refuses to read or listen to any testimony, completely shirking his constitutional duty to serve as an impartial juror. The man needs to grow up.


Trump supporters are predictable when facts don't go their way.
I not sure leftists know what facts are.
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