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Pat Buchanan was the person who said "bear down on the White vote" as far as having the GOP succeed in elections. Based on this, I have to consider that maybe many within the GOP have taken this to heart. And if this is the case, why such obsession over who Blacks vote for?
The Black vote is often the tipping point in some states. The Dems count on this 90% plus voting block
Just an additional 7-8% of the Black voting going to Trump can be disastrous for the Dems.
Black voter turnout in Wisconsin dropped by 1/5. Voter ID laws and Hilary doing a relatively (relative being the keyword) lousy job with the Black vote are considered to be factors.
Black voter turnout in Wisconsin dropped by 1/5. Voter ID laws and Hilary doing a relatively (relative being the keyword) lousy job with the Black vote are considered to be factors.
You are absolutely correct. Most of these commentators are just WISHING. What they are saying is what the WISH will happen...lol.
The way I look at it is like this. Whichever party wins the next election will almost surely lose the 2024 election....because between now and then there will be another "great recession" and the party in the white house will get the blame. Now....there may be some supreme court seats come open between that time....and that will be the only prize for the party in power.
Black voter turnout in Wisconsin dropped by 1/5. Voter ID laws and Hilary doing a relatively (relative being the keyword) lousy job with the Black vote are considered to be factors.
It's highly unlikely we'll see a black turnout similar to 2012/2008. Not with the current crop of Dems running.
What I predict is the Black turnout will be similar to 2016 with Trump receiving a bump in those numbers.
How much of bump is debatable but I don't think it's unreasonable to see a 7-8 increase.
Pat Buchanan was the person who said "bear down on the White vote" as far as having the GOP succeed in elections. Based on this, I have to consider that maybe many within the GOP have taken this to heart. And if this is the case, why such obsession over who Blacks vote for?
Aren't there around 30 million black citizens in this country? Elections are decided by a much smaller number than that, so the black vote could be critical.
It's highly unlikely we'll see a black turnout similar to 2012/2008. Not with the current crop of Dems running.
What I predict is the Black turnout will be similar to 2016 with Trump receiving a bump in those numbers.
How much of bump is debatable but I don't think it's unreasonable to see a 7-8 increase.
I think what will happen is that some of the Black voters who didn't vote back in 2016 might see it as a lesson, and trying voting in 2020, AGAINST Trump. Black support for Trump is overstated. What you might see is an increase in 3rd party voting.
Aren't there around 30 million black citizens in this country? Elections are decided by a much smaller number than that, so the black vote could be critical.
It's just a numbers game.
Well, when someone says something to the effect of "forget Blacks, concentrate on Whites", what is that person saying? And if many in the GOP have taken it to heart, why are there people (not politicians, but regular people) complaining about Blacks voting Democrat in high numbers? What business it it of theirs?
Well, when someone says something to the effect of "forget Blacks, concentrate on Whites", what is that person saying? And if many in the GOP have taken it to heart, why are there people (not politicians, but regular people) complaining about Blacks voting Democrat in high numbers? What business it it of theirs?
Sorry, doesn't make sense. You say it's not the GOP's "business" to be concerned that blacks vote overwhelming for Democrats? Why wouldn't any party be concerned if a voting bloc turned out, something like 93% is it, for the opposing party?
You are absolutely correct. Most of these commentators are just WISHING. What they are saying is what the WISH will happen...lol.
The way I look at it is like this. Whichever party wins the next election will almost surely lose the 2024 election....because between now and then there will be another "great recession" and the party in the white house will get the blame. Now....there may be some supreme court seats come open between that time....and that will be the only prize for the party in power.
I wouldn't put it past anyone. Look at some of the election results. Where Black voter turnout dropped, the GOP won those states. Most Blacks aren't supporting Trump like that. When a lower voter turnout determines a candidate winning, it shows that perhaps that candidate isn't as popular as one wants to believe. For Trump, a drop in Black voter turnout was part of the reason he won.
I hop we don't have another recession. The last thing I need is to be unemployed.
Sorry, doesn't make sense. You say it's not the GOP's "business" to be concerned that blacks vote overwhelming for Democrats? Why wouldn't any party be concerned if a voting bloc turned out, something like 93% is it, for the opposing party?
Seems like a reasonable concern to me.
Apparently, you didn't read the part in parentheses when I said "regular people, not politicians". It is people here on city-data complaining that Blacks vote Democrat, as if it is their Blacks voting Democrat affects them. I'm not talking about politicians. I brought up Pat Buchanan and a possible GOP strategy because that likely has something to do with why more Blacks aren't supporting the GOP, or Trump for that matter.
What I'm seeing is this. I don't see MORE GOP politicians trying to bring Blacks into the fold. I see more resentment towards Blacks for voting Democrat. Why would I vote for a party if I felt it, or some of its members, resented me?
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