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Old 11-19-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
Vindman is dead in the water, he just perjured himself by saying he doesn't know the identity of the whistleblower.

Nunes: Did you discuss the July 25 call or July 26 call with anyone outside the White House?

Vindman: Yes. George Kent, and someone I'm not going to name who works in the intelligence community.

Schiff just told Vindman not to answer the question.

Vindman is the leaker.
Not only that, but Schiff outed himself as a Liar also. Not that any of this is Breaking News, we knew that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/amber_ath...18175905730566

 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Right, you think bringing up his perjury is "intended to be misleading or distracting". Hopefully you don't actually believe that and are merely being dishonest because witnesses pressuring themselves is always highly relevant and could never be accurately described as "distracting" or "misleading"



If he truly doesn't know then he can't say that he'd be outing anyone. He'd have to answer.
Vindman stated he didn't answer because Schiff ruled the types of questions that could out the whistleblower were not to be permitted.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Nunes didn't do that either. He isn't that smart.



But he called him mister...and since when does a civilian have to call the rank of any officer when talking with them?
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:04 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Having the corrupt Ukraine prosecutor fired was a mandate dictated by the US official national security polices.
You're saying that Obama bribed the Ukraine to fire its prosecutor. That was shortly after Ukraine's prosecutor raided the home of Burisma's owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, in 2016.

Since the Ukrainian prosecutor was already investigating corruption at Burisma, why would Obama/Biden want him fired to prevent that investigation?
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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It's a sad day for the American people when defense of our democracy from republican political activism is left to a foreign born American Lieutenant Colonel.

God save America from the oligarchs.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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Impossible to prove though, so he's safe with his lie.... but it is absolutely devastating to his credibility.
Not necessarily “impossible to prove”. I bet Page and Stzrok though all their plotting would be “impossible to prove”. They were wrong.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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No we don't know that.
I get why you'd refuse to admit the obvious, but all halfway impartial and intelligent people do now know that Vindman leaked to Eric Ciaramella and that's what started this whole coup attempt.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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HE WASN'T!!!!!
So he wasn't withholding the aid that he only decided to release AFTER the WB report came out?

July 3rd
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Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a national security official working at the White House, becomes aware that the military aid has been held up. He testified that he received a notice from the State Department. “That’s when I was concretely made aware of the fact there was a hold placed,” he said in testimony to lawmakers.
July 18th
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In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the White House Office of Management and Budget announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
August 25
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A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25.
Sept 9th
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Three House committees launch a wide-ranging investigation into the allegations that Trump, his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and possibly others, tried to pressure the Ukrainian government to help the president’s reelection campaign by digging up dirt on a political rival.
Sept 11th
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The funds are suddenly released. Senate Republicans said that happened in part because Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, threatened to block $5 billion in Pentagon spending for 2020 if the aid wasn’t given to Ukraine. They said the aid was held up while Trump looked into whether Zelenskiy was serious about fighting corruption. Taylor and other diplomats involved in Ukraine were not given a reason for the aid being released.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...raine-n1082256

So Trump DID put a hold on aid and only released it AFTER the investigation started and he knew that he was going to get caught trying to us aid money to bribe a foreign president to open a case into his political rival.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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You're saying that Obama bribed the Ukraine to fire its prosecutor. That was shortly after Ukraine's prosecutor raided the home of Burisma's owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, in 2016.

Since the Ukrainian prosecutor was already investigating corruption at Burisma, why would Obama/Biden want him fired to prevent that investigation?
Once again you've got the timeline wrong. Biden was in Ukraine in early December 2015.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Per the US-Ukraine treaty, Trump is well within his authority to ask Zelensky for the Ukraine's cooperation in investigating Biden's $1 billion bribery.
https://www.congress.gov/treaty-docu.../document-text

Care to point out the section that states that a President can withhold congressional approved aid and try to make a foreign country open an investigation into a political rival?
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