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Old 11-19-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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This is a good thing.

 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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And where would a lot of these students go instead?

Canada, Australia, UK are some of the countries. Less onerous in terms of getting student visas.
From the article:

"Countries like Canada, Australia, and China have developed proactive recruiting strategies and are actively recruiting students, while we seemingly are not wanting to attract students," Banks said.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is a good thing.
How so?

"The more than one million international students currently enrolled at US colleges and universities contributed nearly $41 billion to the US economy, and supported 458,290 jobs during the 2018-2019 academic year, a new NAFSA report finds."
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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New international students per school year
2013/14 270,128
2014/15 293,766
2015/16 300,743
2016/17 290,836
2017/18 271,738
2018/19 269,383

1) How does that small loss in the number of international students "cost the US economy $11.8 billion and more than 65,000 jobs,"

2) Is it a bad thing that more US citizens can be accepted?
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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2) Is it a bad thing that more US citizens can be accepted?
Who said that it happening? This is resulting in empty seats, and lower budgets.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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And where would a lot of these students go instead?

Canada, Australia, UK are some of the countries. Less onerous in terms of getting student visas.



I would not mind that they also go to these other countries.


Let us be real. Most of these students come not with the primary aim of studying in USA but to use that as a springboard to get H1 visa and then green card. That is why they are willing to pay full tuition. Now that we have curtailed the H1b visas the attraction for US studies is less.


If we can just let them study here instead of hanging on and on in student F1 visas hoping for a transfer to H1B, I am all for it. But that is not what a majority want to do.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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1) How does that small loss in the number of international students "cost the US economy $11.8 billion and more than 65,000 jobs,"
Per the OP's link:

For every seven international students, three US jobs are created or supported by spending in sectors including higher education, accommodations, dining, retail, and transportation
...
International students are significant to school budgets, as many colleges and universities collect higher tuition from them
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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We have plenty of American graduates who want those jobs. Just recruit at Starbucks.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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Yes, you guessed it, its Trump's fault.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/educ...ing/ar-BBWZHfW

The continued decline in international student enrollment since the fall of 2016 has cost the US economy $11.8 billion and more than 65,000 jobs, according to estimates from NAFSA: Association of International Educators, an international association of professional educators.

"There's many variables, but largely it's been the policies and rhetoric from the current administration that's really driven the numbers to move in that direction," said Rachel Banks, director of public policy at NAFSA.
think about an organization that would claim some facts and figures, but then attribute it to "rhetoric" without actual analysis of the data.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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Oh darn, lol.

At that, nice number spinning being done. A whopping 30k students less somehow equals to 65k jobs and almost 12 billion dollars loss.

At that, there are nor empty seats due to this.
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