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Old 11-19-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Who said that it happening? This is resulting in empty seats, and lower budgets.
That’s not happening. My oldest child will be applying next year, so I am up to date on this right now. Colleges are much more competitive now because more Americans are going to college than ever before. I dont know that I would get into my alma mater if I had to apply today. Even my safety school, the school I applied to because I knew I would definitely get in, even if I didnt get in anywhere else, is now considered a competitive school.

The reason they are losing money, is because foreign students pay an inflated tuition. Now that there are less of them, the schools have to take Americans, at the lower tuition rate.

Edit: It even says as much in the OPs article:
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International students are significant to school budgets, as many colleges and universities collect higher tuition from them. At Peninsula College in Washington State, international students are charged about $10,000 a year in tuition, while in-state students pay about $5,000.

 
Old 11-19-2019, 04:39 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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If you think USA is racist, it shows you have never traveled internationally, except to maybe Canada and some parts of western Europe.
That's very true. Racism can be found everywhere; it's an ugly but common side to human nature. We just tend to notice it more often in the USA because of the melting-pot nature of this country.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:15 AM
 
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That’s not happening. My oldest child will be applying next year, so I am up to date on this right now. Colleges are much more competitive now because more Americans are going to college than ever before. I dont know that I would get into my alma mater if I had to apply today. Even my safety school, the school I applied to because I knew I would definitely get in, even if I didnt get in anywhere else, is now considered a competitive school.

The reason they are losing money, is because foreign students pay an inflated tuition. Now that there are less of them, the schools have to take Americans, at the lower tuition rate.

Edit: It even says as much in the OPs article:
I would also add something else. Because more students are trying to save money, many either stay home and attend college in their home state. And some students take a year off to live in another state. Both cases, out of state tuition is avoided.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:29 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Who said that it happening? This is resulting in empty seats, and lower budgets.
How is it resulting in empty seats? Those are filled by American applicants. Ever heard of waiting lists? Every spring, students not outright declined but placed on waiting lists sit on pins and needles hoping to get into their 'dream school.'
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:32 AM
 
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Why is this a bad thing? These aren't illiterate peasants scampering up the banks of the Rio Grande. They hail from the best high-schools abroad, with strong family backing. They major in things like engineering. They go on to join university faculty, start-ups, tech firms, research organizations of various stripes. They're leaders in patents, in scholarly publications, in new ideas. Wouldn't it make sense to invite such persons with open-arms, with a ready pathway from F-1 visa, to H1b, green card and citizenship?
Yeah, but all that stuff aside; they aren't all white or potential members of the NRA and can probably think for themselves rather than glean all their knowledge from FOX news.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:33 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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so how does a 10% drop in enrollment play such an outsized role? 25% of economic activity, and 14% of jobs?
There is no significant drop in enrollment. Most if not all admission slots are filled by American students on the waiting list. Universities maintain such lists for exactly that reason. Not every student they accept chooses to attend. If enrollment dips, they go to the waiting list. Those on the waiting list can be just as qualified, but lack the "diversity" many universities strive to achieve. White suburban HS student? You have no "hook."
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:36 AM
 
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Yes, you guessed it, its Trump's fault.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/educ...ing/ar-BBWZHfW

The continued decline in international student enrollment since the fall of 2016 has cost the US economy $11.8 billion and more than 65,000 jobs, according to estimates from NAFSA: Association of International Educators, an international association of professional educators.

"There's many variables, but largely it's been the policies and rhetoric from the current administration that's really driven the numbers to move in that direction," said Rachel Banks, director of public policy at NAFSA.
"has cost the US economy $11.8 billion and more than 65,000 jobs," All those liberal "professors" now have to find REAL jobs, if thy can. Don't feel sorry for them 1 bit.
And may of the students AFTER they education Visa's expired STAYED here ILLEGALLY.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:43 AM
 
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In your own damn article it says the decline began in the fall of 2016.

Are you aware that Trump was not president at that time????
The summer of 2016 is when America`s worst were front and center for all the world to see.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I'm not Finn, but this is an easy answer: sits are not limited. There are more colleges than students here. And in fact, with less enrollment colleges tend to increase tuition, just like any greedy business. So I'd say affordability will either stay the same, or will be reduced.

"Daddy, booze now costs twice higher. Does it mean you'll drink less? - No, kid, it means you will eat less"

Hoping for cost of education to come down is a pipe dream. Colleges are in the business of education, they are not there for education
If someone gets education in college, it's a byproduct, not the intent. Intent is to milk student as much as possible. The "education" part of it is optional
Everything is limited.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:49 AM
 
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A lot of illegal immigrants are from Visa abuses... And of course Democrats want them all in and free citizenship with it...
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