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Old 12-02-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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Ok, buddy. You're right, no innovation beyond your gas powered car is possible because Infowars tells you so.
Wanting Joy Behar to teach you how to think doesn't mean that's how things work. Infowars is just the link to the story of the half mile long line in CA.

 
Old 12-02-2019, 08:53 PM
 
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Earth to 'enviro'-gadget heads: Wishing doesn't make it as practical as liquid fuel.

https://www.infowars.com/video-tesla...tric-vehicles/
Electric cars are the future. So you may as well get used to it. I don't understand why anyone would be against them in the first place. We have a Volt which kicks over to gas if need be. But it hardly ever does because we just plug it in the garage, no special equipment needed. The problem with all electric right now is there aren't enough charging stations especially at airports. That will change though as they become the norm.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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Electric cars are the future. So you may as well get used to it. I don't understand why anyone would be against them in the first place. We have a Volt which kicks over to gas if need be. But it hardly ever does because we just plug it in the garage, no special equipment needed. The problem with all electric right now is there aren't enough charging stations especially at airports. That will change though as they become the norm.
I'm against their subsidies. I'm against digging up millions of miles of surface, and building that many more high tension towers, to increase the size of the transmission lines their cult will need if all their neighbors have one too. I'm against building more area-swallowing generation for those lines based on PV and wind turbines. I'm against their slow return-to-road times as their power sources deplete. I'm against misguided, proactive attempts by a cult to do away with liquid fueled counterparts to EVs.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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And when the first gas cars were produced, did you think there were Shell stations coast to coast?
Gasoline cars had major advantages over the horses they replaced. Electric car's don't have major advantages over gasoline cars. Just some minor ones... plus some disadvantages, as these Tesla driver found out.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:23 PM
 
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I'm against their subsidies. I'm against digging up millions of miles of surface, and building that many more high tension towers, to increase the size of the transmission lines their cult will need if all their neighbors have one too. I'm against their slow return-to-road times as their power sources deplete. I'm against misguided, proactive attempts by a cult to do away with liquid fueled counterparts to EVs.
What high tension towers do they need? We just plug ours in the outlet in our garage. No big deal. And this is not a cult, it's the future. We save hundreds of dollars in gas every year. And our electric bill has hardly gone up. Why wouldn't people want to save money.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:24 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I'm against their subsidies. I'm against digging up millions of miles of surface, and building that many more high tension towers, to increase the size of the transmission lines their cult will need if all their neighbors have one too. I'm against their slow return-to-road times as their power sources deplete. I'm against misguided, proactive attempts by a cult to do away with liquid fueled counterparts to EVs.
Don't worry, there are people much smarter and more ambitious than you or me who will take up the challenge and find solutions to the problems you are happy to remain stuck on forever. In case you haven't noticed, history is full of examples of innovation beyond the limits of what ignorant naysayers said would ever be possible. That's the story of progress, and I wouldn’t bet against it in the long run.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The first electric car was in 1890. How much time do you think they need.
Careful with the facts-that's a good way to get banned. Oh wait, this isn't Facebook.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Ok, buddy. You're right, no innovation beyond your gas powered car is possible because Infowars tells you so.
It's not Infowars that tells us EVs aren't practical for long distance driving-it's engineering. And common sense.
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Electric cars are the future. So you may as well get used to it. I don't understand why anyone would be against them in the first place. We have a Volt which kicks over to gas if need be. But it hardly ever does because we just plug it in the garage, no special equipment needed. The problem with all electric right now is there aren't enough charging stations especially at airports. That will change though as they become the norm.
So you hardly ever drive more than 30-40 miles? I think range-extended EVs are the only remotely practical ones. But-if you only drive such a short distance-is it worth the trouble to plug in every night and unplug every morning (hope you don't ever forget) just to save $3 or so of gas a day? To say nothing about what you pay for such a premium for the Volt in the first place. Let alone the cost of the home charging station.

I drive ~100 miles a day. My diesel Grand Cherokee gets 650 miles on a tank...and takes about 5 minutes to fuel. Oh, with no need to invest in a home charging station. Or worry about being without power once in a while.

Concerning charging stations-a fuelup at a gas pump takes what, 5 minutes? Meaning you get up to 12 customers an hour through each pump. Now-just how many do you get through a EV charging station in the same time? To have anywhere near the same throughput, your charging stations are going to have to have a lot more chargers. A lot more parking lot. A lot more room for people to sit, wait, and twiddle their thumbs waiting on a charge. Now-just what is the impact of all that extra pavement? The extra structures for the chargers? The upgrade to the electrical infrastructure to support that?
 
Old 12-02-2019, 09:38 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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It's not Infowars that tells us EVs aren't practical for long distance driving-it's engineering. And common sense.
So you're an engineer by trade with professional working knowledge of electric battery vs. combustion engine vehicles, I take it?
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