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McConnell has announced he's not impartial, there will be no witnesses, no evidence. Just a quick vote.
Why won't McConnell let Mulvaney, Pompeo, Giuliani, and Bolton testify? What are they afraid of?
McConnell is complicit, he is a co-conspirator in Trump's obstruction of justice. The Senate sham trial is a massive cover-up.
Let's get all of the evidence, all of the testimony, out on the table. Don't hide it from the Senators, and don't hide it from We the People. Where's the transparency?
They are witnesses to him doing as they did. They have not been impeached trump has. Mitch doesn't care about evidence.
Neither did a few of the house dems....not sure your point? Unless you are saying, it's all good because of known people who don't care about evidence?
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Just because they want to impeach doesn't mean they don't want evidence; you said that. You are making up AND TWISTING FACTS. You have to have evidence to impeach.
Yes I did, and your excuse below also says you don't care.....
We know of 2 that did not care about evidence.
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There is no matter that some wanted to impeach from the git-go. They are freshman nobodies.
Did they have a vote in this impeachment or not? It's a simple question.
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The Senate is supposed to hold an impartial trial. We all know they won't because mitch says they won't.
As the house, yet in your statement above, you don't care because they are"freshman nobodies."
No, there is nothing to defend, because nothing rose to the level of actually breaking any laws....
There is nothing to defend because the Monarch states "nothing rose to the level of actually breaking any laws."
In other words, the Monarch States there is nothing to defend.
How is that a defense?
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Going forward, every president will have to wonder, if he is not liked, will he be impeached for that. The left set an extremely bad precedence.....Remember, the left tried for 3 years and the top 2 FBI agents in the United States found nothing, and someone did not like the words that were said on a phone call.
If a POTUS has the right to determine the propriety, scope, & nature of an impeachment inquiry into his own conduct, there will never be another impeachment inquiry, hearing, or trial.
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Well, since the house made it own rules, the senate also gets to make their own rules...why are you mad at that?
The House did no such thing in its inquiry. Going forward to the Senate trial, Speaker Pelosi & Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer are correct to insist that a decision to allow for witness testimony is a prerequisite to a full and fair trial.
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No, we are not a monarchy, but the house sure thinks they are...they want to make the rules for the senate.....so, you are right, when did we become a monarchy? They want to ensure what type of trial will be given, or no articles of impeachment....so basically, do it my way (the houses) or nothing....
You know, quid pro quo...
This is a nonsensical response, as is usual, you're going around in circles.
A Senate trial is not a court trial where some House 'DA' prosecutes a defendant from inside Senate chambers. The Senate is free not to call witnesses.
people won't accept it's not a trial in the traditional sense, it's a political trial. McConnell can do whatever he wants, just as Nadler and Schiff did. Dems knew this before they started this debacle, now they look like crybabies.
There is nothing to defend because the Monarch states "nothing rose to the level of actually breaking any laws."
National security...nahhhhhhhhh...never mind, lets go on Christmas break...
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In other words, the Monarch States there is nothing to defend.
Show us something to defend.
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How is that a defense?
Oh, you mean guilty until you prove your innocence?
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If a POTUS has the right to determine the propriety, scope, & nature of an impeachment inquiry into his own conduct, there will never be another impeachment inquiry, hearing, or trial.
trump did not, pelosi brought nothing to defend against.
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The House did no such thing in its inquiry. Going forward to the Senate trial, Speaker Pelosi & Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer are correct to insist that a decision to allow for witness testimony is a prerequisite to a full and fair trial.
The house did not make their own rules? No that's funny....
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This is a nonsensical response, as is usual, you're going around in circles.
Your inability to understand the house made it's own rules and now the senate gets to make it's own rules is not my problem. So yes, there are circles being made, but you are making those circles all because you don't agree the senate can make it's own rules....
Your inability to understand the house made it's own rules and now the senate gets to make it's own rules is not my problem. So yes, there are circles being made, but you are making those circles all because you don't agree the senate can make it's own rules....
this is the best part of this whole sham. You ask the Dems where in the 'constitution it says what they claim it says but they can't show you because it doesn't exist. McConnell can do what he wants with a simple majority vote, to include dismissing the whole thing. Dems have to learn to be subservient to McConnell, he's in charge. It's fun to watch them turn on the spit.
National security...nahhhhhhhhh...never mind, lets go on Christmas break...
Show us something to defend.
Oh, you mean guilty until you prove your innocence?
trump did not, pelosi brought nothing to defend against.
The house did not make their own rules? No that's funny....
Your inability to understand the house made it's own rules and now the senate gets to make it's own rules is not my problem. So yes, there are circles being made, but you are making those circles all because you don't agree the senate can make it's own rules....
You are making the same baseless arguments that Pat Cipollone made back in October. He said the inquiry is “constitutionally invalid and a violation of due process" & then stopped there. Except to categorically refuse to cooperate in any way with the impeachmeny inquiry. If he is claiming the IM-POTUS is being denied Constitutionally mandated procedural protections, why didn't he advocate for the IM-POTUS?
What does the Demonic Legal Expert say about no witnesses and Hearsay gossip about not a crime?
What hearsay? There was first-hand witness testimony at the trial. Mr. Sondland was more than a witness -- he was a participant, and as Daniel Goldman pointed out, he was in effect an unindicted co-conspirator.
The evidence was overwhelming. Trump is guilty as charged. He and Giuliani had a scheme going to shake down Ukraine into interfering in our election process. There has been ZERO evidence presented that clears Trump. If there was, you know McConnell would have witnesses presenting it.
The Senate has NO defense of Trump except OBSTRUCTION. That's why there's no witnesses, no evidence, just a vote. It's a cover up. Trump's acquittal is a sham vote.
What hearsay? There was first-hand witness testimony at the trial. Mr. Sondland was more than a witness -- he was a participant, and as Daniel Goldman pointed out, he was in effect an unindicted co-conspirator.
The evidence was overwhelming. Trump is guilty as charged. He and Giuliani had a scheme going to shake down Ukraine into interfering in our election process. There has been ZERO evidence presented that clears Trump. If there was, you know McConnell would have witnesses presenting it.
The Senate has NO defense of Trump except OBSTRUCTION. That's why there's no witnesses, no evidence, just a vote. It's a cover up. Trump's acquittal is a sham vote.
good to see you're finally realizing McConnell is large and in charge, House Dems are putty in his hands. the sham is about to end.
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