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Both of these posts are 100% correct. We have a large minority in this country who have little actual knowledge of these topics, but have been brain washed by conspiracy theorists.
Grow up? So, I'm just supposed to shut up and deal with a terrible system?
Yes, you're supposed to shut up and not "complain and whine". Only good news needs to be reported. Bad news? Well, are you a conspiracy theorist nut? I didn't think so. So shut up and stick your head back into the ground. Only report good news.
I'm not splitting anything, I told you who defeated Nazi Germany, with the scale of the Eastern front completely dwarfing everything else. I mean it was not even close.
Second, if anything is mass-made in emergency, it will have NOTHING to do with private insurance. Zilch. The point is, even that is not quick enough if the system is overwhelmed on a fast time scale.
Lastly, we don't have freaking testing in place. There was ton of time to have that ready, with no strain on the system. Do you understand that simple fact?
uhm...ww2 was about more than the eastern fromt or germany
we, the US beat Germany in Northern Africa..we, the US beat japan
"Your understanding is wrong. People use ERs when they don't have health insurance because the ERs can't turn them away."...
No, your understanding is wrong. ER's are not required to treat non-emergent patients. Go in for a broken leg, fine, you will be treated...go in for sniffles, you are not guaranteed to be treated. The ER is entitled to deny service and refer you to your Primary....don't have a Primary....oh well. It it entirely up to the discretion of the facility to treat non-emergent cases.
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law.
Hospitals have three main obligations under EMTALA:
Any individual who comes and requests must receive a medical screening examination to determine whether an emergency medical condition exists. Examination and treatment cannot be delayed to inquire about methods of payment or insurance coverage. Emergency departments also must post signs that notify patients and visitors of their rights to a medical screening examination and treatment.
If an emergency medical condition exists, treatment must be provided until the emergency medical condition is resolved or stabilized. If the hospital does not have the capability to treat the emergency medical condition, an "appropriate" transfer of the patient to another hospital must be done in accordance with the EMTALA provisions.
Hospitals with specialized capabilities are obligated to accept transfers from hospitals who lack the capability to treat unstable emergency medial conditions.
"Your understanding is wrong. People use ERs when they don't have health insurance because the ERs can't turn them away."...
No, your understanding is wrong. ER's are not required to treat non-emergent patients. Go in for a broken leg, fine, you will be treated...go in for sniffles, you are not guaranteed to be treated. The ER is entitled to deny service and refer you to your Primary....don't have a Primary....oh well. It it entirely up to the discretion of the facility to treat non-emergent cases.
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law.
Hospitals have three main obligations under EMTALA:
Any individual who comes and requests must receive a medical screening examination to determine whether an emergency medical condition exists. Examination and treatment cannot be delayed to inquire about methods of payment or insurance coverage. Emergency departments also must post signs that notify patients and visitors of their rights to a medical screening examination and treatment.
If an emergency medical condition exists, treatment must be provided until the emergency medical condition is resolved or stabilized. If the hospital does not have the capability to treat the emergency medical condition, an "appropriate" transfer of the patient to another hospital must be done in accordance with the EMTALA provisions.
Hospitals with specialized capabilities are obligated to accept transfers from hospitals who lack the capability to treat unstable emergency medial conditions.
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Gemstone1
That was a response to the post below. ERs may not be required to treat non-emergent patients, but if they can get reimbursed they will. Many hospitals opened up clinics or "urgicare" centers to avoid reimbursement issues. My local hospital opened up one next door to the ER.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Yes, it does sound logical because when people get health care for free (mostly applicable to no/low-income), they use the ER instead of office visits for every sniffle, sneeze, and cough because the ER is more convenient, and they're not paying. Exactly what happened when Obamacare expanded Medicaid.
That was a response to the post below. ERs may not be required to treat non-emergent patients, but if they can get reimbursed they will. Many hospitals opened up clinics or "urgicare" centers to avoid reimbursement issues. My local hospital opened up one next door to the ER.
Exactly. That's what happened when Obamacare expanded Medicaid. Since Medicaid was paying ER-level reimbursements for those using the ER as a doctor's office for every little sniffle, sneeze, and cough, 2 things happened:
ER use skyrocketed.
Health care spending skyrocketed.
It was the exact opposite of what the Obamacare proponents predicted and promised. Give people completely free access to health care, and they 100% will prioritize their own convenience over using resources responsibly or controlling/reducing costs.
Private insurance is more bureaucratic than Medicare.
Just curious, do you have medicare? What is the basis for your comparison?
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