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Old 03-15-2020, 09:50 PM
 
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This is TOTALLY false. This is because of Obama's personal characteristics, including his foreign connections, the fact that he spent his childhood abroad, that his school documents in Indonesia claimed his religion as "Islam", the fact that he has a non-American first name and actually went from Barry to Barack to be less assimilated and less American.

Obama was also the most radical, anti-American candidate and president, though Sleepy Joe and Hillary are equally radical as him, and Bernie even more so.
No, it's not false. It's true.

The other things have been true of other candidates over time, except for his name.

And his name certainly isn't a justification for the birther movement.

The only 'other thing in the room', and it is a proverbial elephant, is the color of Obama's skin.

By supporting Birtherism, either one of two things, or both, are true.....Trump is a racist and/or he knows many of his supporters are Racists and wants to pander/appeal to them. It really doesn't matter if is just the latter, as that might be even worse than being racist.

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If Ben Carson or Colin Powell ran for president, nobody would question that they're 100% American.
^^^^^ Irrelevant to the racist nature of Birtherism with Obama as the target.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:55 PM
 
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^^^^^ Irrelevant to the racist nature of Birtherism with Obama as the target.
Funny how they always try that misdirection ploy. Dishonest debate tactics. I'm am not surprised because they support the biggliest con-man this country has ever seen.
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Old 03-15-2020, 11:45 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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No, it's not false. It's true.

The other things have been true of other candidates over time, except for his name.

And his name certainly isn't a justification for the birther movement.

The only 'other thing in the room', and it is a proverbial elephant, is the color of Obama's skin.

By supporting Birtherism, either one of two things, or both, are true.....Trump is a racist and/or he knows many of his supporters are Racists and wants to pander/appeal to them. It really doesn't matter if is just the latter, as that might be even worse than being racist.

^^^^^ Irrelevant to the racist nature of Birtherism with Obama as the target.
You and I both know that if the first black candidate was Ben Carson, Tim Scott, or Colin Powell nobody would have questioned they were born in the US. This guy's name was BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, he lived abroad most of his childhood, there is documentation saying he is Muslim, this is about his personal characteristics not his race.

Guess what Im a minority in the heart of Trump country and I don't experience racism, and people don't question whether I'm American or not, but then other than my skin color I really am just like everyone else around me. So with Obama's birther thing, illegals allegedly being mistreated, etc its usually something else that's the cause.

I'm sure if I refused to speak English, purposely changed my first name to make it sound more foreign and less American, and was a radical socialist my experience would be different. But I still wouldn't be physically attacked or my car set on fire like Democrats have done to Trump supports in enlightened tolerant diverse places like Chicago, San Francisco and Seattle.
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Old 03-15-2020, 11:49 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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So the Asian person who was visciously attacked by racist thugs in liberal Britain (though its possible his attackers were non-white since London is now like 25% immigrant), if that had happened in the US and he shot one of them that would probably count as Stand Your Ground, like when Trayvon attacked George Zimmerman in unprovoked hand to hand combat and Zimmerman shot him in self defense.
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Old 03-15-2020, 11:50 PM
 
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The better idea, shutting down all the racist trash that are the cause of hate crimes.

Start with the racist POS in the White House and about 70% of this board.
Including you?
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Old 03-15-2020, 11:53 PM
 
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Today at my wife's workplace several people went out of their way to be vocally racist to a wonderful Muslim woman. The common denominator? They were all white trash scum like the rightwing whackjobs on this site. Before Trump emboldened this sub-set of human scum, it would have been maybe one in a three month period.

Not to mention the crap my wife takes on occasion because she is an Asian-American.

So, all of the losers that want to trudge out their Wattaboutisms and bogus equivalencies, skr*w you! The world will be infinitesimally better when you're no longer breathing.
Wrong and pull your head out of your behind! Is Omar and Tlaib, 2 muslim ho's, not racist to you when they openly call for the destruction of America, cmon man!
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Old 03-16-2020, 12:13 AM
 
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So the Asian person who was visciously attacked by racist thugs in liberal Britain (though its possible his attackers were non-white since London is now like 25% immigrant), if that had happened in the US and he shot one of them that would probably count as Stand Your Ground, like when Trayvon attacked George Zimmerman in unprovoked hand to hand combat and Zimmerman shot him in self defense.
Speaking of Britain, most of their immigrants are Asian. You DO realize that, right?
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Old 03-16-2020, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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And Asians can’t be racist against blacks and Hispanics? LMAO...how about answering that!! Try being black and dealing with people from India.

In any case, I know what this is on your behalf. You most certainly see it as being to your benefit if all these minorities all hate each other. It furthers the White Conservative agenda. Just read through this thread and it’s insanely palpable.
The OP being an example you've mentioned.
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Old 03-16-2020, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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This is TOTALLY false. This is because of Obama's personal characteristics, including his foreign connections, the fact that he spent his childhood abroad, that his school documents in Indonesia claimed his religion as "Islam", the fact that he has a non-American first name and actually went from Barry to Barack to be less assimilated and less American.

Obama was also the most radical, anti-American candidate and president, though Sleepy Joe and Hillary are equally radical as him, and Bernie even more so.

If Ben Carson or Colin Powell ran for president, nobody would question that they're 100% American.
You've pretty much discredited yourself with these tired tropes about Obama and birtherism nonsense.
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Old 03-16-2020, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Trump’s birther movement was TOTALLY racist. Race was absolutely at the center of that controversy. And Trump put a helluva lot of money behind it. Hell, HE was the main protagonist in the birther movement.

So you didn’t shut down this liberal. You must be talking about someone else.
It’s funny how Canadians like to talk smack about Trump, but with their own Canadian prime minister Trudeau, A/K/A Mr. Blackface, you Canadians are fine with that... How phoocked up is that and he did that stunt several times too, so it’s not a one time event. But, he’s now a Far Left liberal, so he gets a free pass. That’s the same way it’s here in the United States too, when it comes our own liberals.

So Canada, fix your own racist problems before pointing the queen’s finger at the United States. Like your treatment of your own Native/indigenous population.

And by the way, why are so many Canadians suffering from TDS?
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