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Old 04-07-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yet another Trump fairy tale, how did he go from claiming this was a bad flu season to saving millions.

 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump is not a hero here. Nor is he the cause. He's been mediocre at best dealing with this. But to be fair, in our lifetimes no POTUS has ever dealt with a pandemic, so there isn't any benchmark to judge him against. I think there is a better chance that some who liked Trump before Covid-19 might feel lesser about him, and those who didn't like him before the virus will dislike him as much if not more than before. I'd be hard pressed to believe that he would get prior detractors to all of the sudden be by his side due solely to his response to this pandemic.
Trump did not create Corona. Trump cannot control Corona. Trump cannot cure Corona.

No hospital system, city, county, state or country was/ is prepared for a once in a 100 year global pandemic.

Trump has been POTUS for 3+ years. Pandemic preparation was not on the Admin’s radar. It is what it is. There is no question the revolving door within his Admin likely contributed to the challenge.

Trump’s messaging has and continues to be all over the place for months. He has taken the country on a ride on his personal emotional roller coaster. The daily press briefings have turned into daily televised Trump 2020 rallies.

As people are dying from Covid-19, Trump feels compelled to tell us about his TV ratings. As people are dying from Covid-19, Trump feels compelled to tell the world he is #1 on Facebook, which isn’t even true. And who gives a hoot.

In the midst of a national health emergency, Trump created a situation where states are competing with each other and FEMA for scare resources.

Once the dust settles, there will be endless postmortems/ lessons learned at every hospital system, city, county, state and country.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:06 AM
 
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I live in Illinois.

No city, county, state or country was/ is prepared for a once in a hundred year global pandemic.

Illinois was the second of 50 states to take the Covid -19 risk seriously and close schools, issue Stay at Home orders, require those not engaged in essential businesses to work from home, limit travel to essential activities, enabled telemedicine, activated national guard and extended deadline for tax filings.

The state’s UI systems are backlogged just like nearly every other state. It is throttling volume with alternate day filings based on the alphabet.

FEMA is converting McCormick Place into a 3000 bed Covid -19 field hospital, consistent with the size of the population.. Don't we pay enough Federal taxes to warrant this level of emergency attention? How much more are you willing to pay for healthcare to have this level of surplus bed, equipment and staffing, in case of a once every 100 year pandemic?

Most counties and municipalities within the state have chosen to close libraries, parks, playgrounds, public buildings, courts etc.

The Illinois Governor, like many other Governors has been highly critical of the Federal Government that put states into a position of competing with each other and FEMA to procure PPE and ventilators. It makes no sense in a national emergency for this to happen.

What else would you expect a Governor to do during this crisis? Be specific, please.

Pritzker has been Governor 15 months. He did not create the pension crisis, no diff than his predecessor or Rauner’s predecessor or......Pritzker had nothing to do with the state constitution that guarantees accrued pension benefits to public employees, come what may. Pritzker had nothing to do with the serious and purposeful underfunding of public pension plans.

Illinois had the distinction of having 2 governors in prison at the same time, a Republican and then a Democrat. There must be something in the water.

Seems to me it really does not matter who lives in the governor’s mansion or the party of the governor. Madigan has been running the state for decades.
If has done such a great job then why is he complaining endlessly and attacking people? Why is Illinois in bad shape with this virus? All he has done since taking over is tax us to death! Gas taxes and other taxes and raised the price of a little car sticker to an insane price!

What is he doing with all of that money? Why doesnt he use all of that money he steals from us to now help us? And isnt he still under investigation for other crimes? He will join those others in prison soon. No wonder every year Illinois loses more people than any other state in America. And the whole world laughs at us!
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:08 AM
 
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Of course he saved lives. Doing anything would have saved 100Ks - 1Ms vs letting the virus spread freely.

That's not the point. His failures cost additional lives vs what would've been lost if he had used the information and resources at his disposal responsibly.

It's like saying... Bobby didn't get a zero on the test. He got a 60, and that's way better. But if Bobby studied he should have gotten a 100. Bobby still failed.
But what if Bobby wasn't told there was a test by the teacher until he was sitting in his chair? Everyone fails. Democrats were handing out impeachment pens, the WHO was parroting Chinese lies, and even Dr Birx said they were waiting on reliable information.

There is ZERO case for negligence. Zero. There's nothing for leftists but useless bleating to make themselves feel better.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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Oh? The models that said we'd have a certain outcome if we didn't do XYZ are not lining up with reality after we did XYZ? You don't say?

It's almost as if people, looking at the models, said "We should do XYZ to avoid the outcomes from the model"
I'm recalling a number in the hundreds of thousands just last week when we were all social-distancing and laughing at leftists demanding that capitalism be overthrown. LOL.

It's almost as if the democrat arm of the media treated CV like an extinction event in order to bring about a political outcome. I know you're mad that it failed, but fail it did. More people are going to die from smoking this year than the virus.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump was the first to act against the virus !!! Dispute that if you can and drop the BS !!!

When did any democrat leader do anything before Trump acted ?
Trump is the POTUS. The buck stops with him to set the tone at the top. That’s his job.

No city, county, state or country was/ is prepared for a once every 100 year global pandemic.

Trump’s messaging has been all over the place since the very beginning. Trump pivoted from downplaying the severity to now exaggerating the likely outcome, if not for him.

While people are dying of complications of Covid 19, Trump feels compelled to boast about his TV ratings and being #1 on FB, which is not true and what the heck does this have to do with the virus?
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:21 AM
 
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Trump did not create Corona. Trump cannot control Corona. Trump cannot cure Corona.

No hospital system, city, county, state or country was/ is prepared for a once in a 100 year global pandemic.

Trump has been POTUS for 3+ years. Pandemic preparation was not on the Admin’s radar. It is what it is. There is no question the revolving door within his Admin likely contributed to the challenge.

Trump’s messaging has and continues to be all over the place for months. He has taken the country on a ride on his personal emotional roller coaster. The daily press briefings have turned into daily televised Trump 2020 rallies.

As people are dying from Covid-19, Trump feels compelled to tell us about his TV ratings. As people are dying from Covid-19, Trump feels compelled to tell the world he is #1 on Facebook, which isn’t even true. And who gives a hoot.

In the midst of a national health emergency, Trump created a situation where states are competing with each other and FEMA for scare resources.

Once the dust settles, there will be endless postmortems/ lessons learned at every hospital system, city, county, state and country.
Yes, Trump is a bar-room loudmouth that gets things done. His instincts are not perfect, but he takes action and gets results in the face of withering, non-stop criticism from a group of jilted, scorned, political eunuchs.

And you're right, Trump DID NOT create Corona. The Chinese did. That's where the buck stops. That virus came from a bat that is not indigenous to Wuhan but was used for experiments at their Wuhan labs. I believe the virus leaked out because of their lax containment protocols. All deaths are on them. Every one.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Yes, Trump is a bar-room loudmouth that gets things done. His instincts are not perfect, but he takes action and gets results in the face of withering, non-stop criticism from a group of jilted, scorned, political eunuchs.

Yep. They still haven't gotten over the fact that HILLARY LOST. LOL!
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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Trump has a country to run !!! You don't !!!

Trying to run Trump into the ground is not helpful when he is and has saved a lot of lives, even democrat lives !!!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/karen-...-saved-my-life
I'm not stopping Trump from doing his job. Trust me -- he's not checking into city data for affirmation.....lol.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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Yep. They still haven't gotten over the fact that HILLARY LOST. LOL!
Yes we have.

We can't get over the fact that once told about the epidemic and the high risk-- Trump assured us we have 15 cases and it is under control.

You can't erase all the stupid statements in the weeks leading up to today -- including -- by Easter we'll all be in church.
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