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This killed more people in 28 days than the colds and flu did in a year. No signs of letting up. Best way to increase that number is to give the virus some more ammo. Fresh meat. By all means, set everyone free so we can just get this over with.
One of the things people don't consider - I KNOW when I have the flu - I KNOW I'm contagious - and I usually say, "Hey, Bob, I'm not going to make dinner tonight, feeling flu-ish." And Bob will say, "Eh, thanks, I have leukemia so I really don't need that right now."
That type of exchange does not happen with covid - because most carriers do not know they have it. So even if everything else (like the death rate) were equal - COVID would be worse.
But it doesn't change your arguments above - I do not think we can be safe in the long run, and I do think that pretty much everyone that CAN catch it, will. And many will die. (Many more, I mean.) But we're buying time to find a vaccine, to improve treatments, to understand how to REALLY avoid infections - this time is not wasted, even though it's costing real dollars. There's always the chance that your personal "circle" had it - and is over it - and is immune - even if you're not - so now your chances of catching it are really, really reduced. Sure, maybe next year on vacation you might find a new fresh case - and then you'll have about a half of percent chance of dying from it. More if you're older, like most things. But maybe by then we have a vaccine.
So there is logic to both approaches - just depends on your patience and (financial) tolerance.
It ultimately boils down to the fact that many people today are WAY too selfish...they want their quality of life to remain the same and do not want to be inconvenienced in the slightest way, they dont care how many people have to die in order for this to be realized, as long as it doesnt impact their lives or careers.
The world is changing drastically, but they refuse to recognize it, they stick their head in the sand and hope it just goes away.
It ultimately boils down to the fact that many people today are WAY too selfish...they want their quality of life to remain the same and do not want to be inconvenienced in the slightest way, they dont care how many people have to die in order for this to be realized, as long as it doesnt impact their lives or careers.
The world is changing drastically, but they refuse to recognize it, they stick their head in the sand and hope it just goes away.
The thing is our lives have changed forever. It will never be the same. And it will certainly not get better anytime soon if people continue to ignore this pandemic.
It ultimately boils down to the fact that many people today are WAY too selfish...they want their quality of life to remain the same and do not want to be inconvenienced in the slightest way, they dont care how many people have to die in order for this to be realized, as long as it doesnt impact their lives or careers.
The world is changing drastically, but they refuse to recognize it, they stick their head in the sand and hope it just goes away.
We can’t let a virus that has a 99% recovery rate change our way if life. Most won’t agree to itn
The thing is our lives have changed forever. It will never be the same. And it will certainly not get better anytime soon if people continue to ignore this pandemic.
Yes, people with common sense are able to recognize this...problem is, many people are not able to recognize it, they are fighting for the world to go back to the way it was, (its pointless, that will never happen), the GLOBAL economy has been too negatively damaged at this point, there is no going back now.
In my opinion, we crossed the threshold of the point of no return, about 2-3 weeks ago. the economy is in the process of collapse right now, Govt is scrambling trying to find a solution, but it cannot go on much longer.
Yes, people with common sense are able to recognize this...problem is, many people are not able to recognize it, they are fighting for the world to go back to the way it was, (its pointless, that will never happen), the GLOBAL economy has been too negatively damaged at this point, there is no going back now.
In my opinion, we crossed the threshold of the point of no return, about 2-3 weeks ago. the economy is in the process of collapse right now, Govt is scrambling trying to find a solution, but it cannot go on much longer.
The Fed is printing its little heart away, trying anything it can to prop up all the big corporations, buy junk bonds, whatever it can do. Not sure how it's all going to shake out, but it's going to be painful and ugly and already is.
Viruses could not care less about countries, economies, political parties, central banks or anything else except having a host to survive in. And the way some in the world are treating the seriousness of Covid-19, including here in the US, this virus is going to have a lot of hosts to occupy for some time to come.
The thing is our lives have changed forever. It will never be the same. And it will certainly not get better anytime soon if people continue to ignore this pandemic.
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Yes, people with common sense are able to recognize this...problem is, many people are not able to recognize it, they are fighting for the world to go back to the way it was, (its pointless, that will never happen), the GLOBAL economy has been too negatively damaged at this point, there is no going back now.
In my opinion, we crossed the threshold of the point of no return, about 2-3 weeks ago. the economy is in the process of collapse right now, Govt is scrambling trying to find a solution, but it cannot go on much longer.
When you guys talk like that, what does that mean to you when you say things like "our lives have changed forever" and "we crossed the threshold of the point of no return"?
What do you expect the changes will be that will still be in effect three to five years from now? What requirements and limitations will there be that were not in effect six months ago?
I am really curious about what you think this new dystopian hellscape that you appear to be imagining will consist of.
When you guys talk like that, what does that mean to you when you say things like "our lives have changed forever" and "we crossed the threshold of the point of no return"?
What do you expect the changes will be that will still be in effect three to five years from now? What requirements and limitations will there be that were not in effect six months ago?
I am really curious about what you think this new dystopian hellscape that you appear to be imagining will consist of.
This.
If anything, what might change is much more emphasis on proper hygiene and cleanness, which is obviously in no way a bad thing.
Does that mean we have to social distance forever?
Does that mean sporting events, concerts, movie theaters, gyms, dine in restaurants, shopping etc will have to close permanently?
Does that mean schools and universities will be online Permanently
Would you be ok with this?
It means that we will have our jobs back, but we can still live without NFL, Superbowl, NBA, concerts and those meaningliess shopping at macys and jcpenney etc.
The biggest take away for me durin this is people have the power to vote and power to not spend needlessly and make others rich.
If anything, what might change is much more emphasis on proper hygiene and cleanness, which is obviously in no way a bad thing.
OK.
If people wash their hands more often from now on, is that how "our lives have changed forever"?
Or if people choose not to shake hands anymore, is that an example of how "we crossed the threshold of the point of no return"?
The sort of high drama that our local leftist 'fraidy-cats have been presenting in these threads suggests something much more devious and dire. But what is that? I really do not know. Do they?
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