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Old 05-24-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Your contention is that an outside Defense Lawyer needs to explain to a Circuit Court why Judge Sullivan took the actions he took during the Flynn case .... when that Defense Lawyer never spent a day in the Court ..

AND

When the Circuit Court specifically ORDERED Judge Sullivan to explain his actions to the Court.

Sounds like it might be a delay-delay-delay tactic ... OR ... it could be that Sullivan is Lawyering up with a High Powered Expensive Lawyer because he knows he will need one.
He hired Beth Wilkinson to explain his actions, she is a former US Attorney so don't know where you get that she never spent a day in court.


So why is the court asking for a hearing when Judge Sullivan hasn't even reached a decision.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You're really saying that Circuit Court judges routinely hire defense lawyers to present their cases to an Appellate Court. Even the WaPo called it a 'rare step.'
No but it is an option and there is absolutely nothing routine about any of this.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I take it, you don't like the gay guy?
I cannot wait for your reaction to Radcliff!
The reason I don't like Grenell is that he is a hack and has not intelligence experience same goes for Radcliff.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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To represent him in the appeals court, that is part of the process since the court is asking the questions.



The court is telling him to make a judgement, why does he need a lawyer for that?
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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Ahh. Still denying that Russia interfered in our election in order to elect Trump.

Still looking for all that collusion in plane sight....
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:42 AM
 
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Even the majority of republicans know that Russia absolutely interfered in order to elect Trump. That evidence is clear.
That's not true at all !!! What is clear is the democrats and never Trumpers aided Russia to create division and chaos !!!

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On the MOST die-hard True Believers (surely overrepresented on this forum) believe that Russia did nothing.
MOST reasonable people BELIEVE Russia did what they have always done and tried to interfere in US elections !!! The question is were they surprised by the assistance by/from the left ? Delighted no doubt !!!
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:50 AM
 
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You're really saying that Circuit Court judges routinely hire defense lawyers to present their cases to an Appellate Court. Even the WaPo called it a 'rare step.'
In fact, has this ever happened before? Ever? Can anyone cite an example of this happening any other time?

This is at a minimum extraordinary, and it may be unprecedented.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:58 AM
 
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That's not true at all !!! What is clear is the democrats and never Trumpers aided Russia to create division and chaos !!!

MOST reasonable people BELIEVE Russia did what they have always done and tried to interfere in US elections !!! The question is were they surprised by the assistance by/from the left ? Delighted no doubt !!!
The only evidence of interference by the Russians in our 2016 elections was through less than $100,000 worth of Facebook posts. These actions were inconsequential and did not alter anyone's vote that we know of, and they certainly did not alter the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

Hillary Clinton got her fat ass beat by Donald Trump, fair and square. Anyone who says otherwise is lying through their teeth.

If anyone can provide evidence that the Russians interfered in our 2016 elections beyond the above referenced Facebook posts, please provide some support for that. However, it is pretty clear at this stage that no such support exists. In fact, the Russia conspiracy allegations were actually false accusations and a conspiracy by the Democrat left and the media to try to overthrow a duly elected President of the United States.
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:04 AM
 
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You're really saying that Circuit Court judges routinely hire defense lawyers to present their cases to an Appellate Court. Even the WaPo called it a 'rare step.'
The Circuit Court Order is “rare” because they had several options and chose the most severe.
1). They could have dismissed ... which is the most common result.
2). They could have “invited” Judge Sullivan to respond ... they Ordered him to respond in only 10 days
3). They could have “requested” an Amicus or outside Lawyer to give an opinion or represent Sullivan.

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He hired Beth Wilkinson to explain his actions, she is a former US Attorney so don't know where you get that she never spent a day in court.

So why is the court asking for a hearing when Judge Sullivan hasn't even reached a decision.
READ ... discover.


John M. Reeves, Appellate Attorney #appellatetwitter

Had the DC Circuit appointed amicus, that lawyer's job would have been to present legal arguments defending Judge Sullivan's refusal to grant the DOJ's dismissal motion, NOT legal arguments purporting to show why the DOJ's motion should not be granted. #appelatetwitter

But the DC Circuit did not appoint a lawyer as amicus to defend Judge Sullivan's actions, unlike in Fokker.

Instead, the DC Circuit ordered Judge Sullivan to PERSONALLY respond and defend his actions, without an amicus attorney to do it for him.

This means that Judge Sullivan (and presumably his clerks) will have to PERSONALLY submit written briefing trying to legally justify his refusal to dismiss the Flynn case.

The DC Circuit is thus making Judge Sullivan--a lifetime federal judge--publicly and directly explain to them his actions.

In short, of all the options available to the DC Circuit for ruling on @SidneyPowell1 's writ, the DC Circuit, chose the most extreme, rare, and drastic of them.

It’s been asked/suggested that Sullivan could escape this Order by accepting the Prosecution dropping the charges and just dis,is the case now. What I’ve read by the Appellate Attorneys is that won’t stop the Circuit Court Order to Judge Sullivan. He totally Jumped the Shark and is in deep water.

That could explain why he hired a High Powered, Highly connected, Expensive Defense Lawyer.
I guess we all fine out in 8 days.

What I find the most interesting about this latest Chapter in this 4 year saga is the Leak from the Sullivan Camp to the Washington Post. Very, very odd.
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:08 PM
 
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This matter could very well end Judge Sullivan's career as a Federal Judge. If so, President Trump will get to nominate his replacement. That should be fun.
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