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Old 05-30-2020, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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He won't get away with this. It is far too blatant. Almost nine minutes on Floyd's neck. He's going to prison. Though I'd read somewhere he's had 12 complaints for use of excessive force. This isn't his first offense.
One juror is all it takes to have a hung jury. I don't trust 12 people agreeing that a cop is guilty of a murder on the job.

 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:02 PM
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One juror is all it takes to have a hung jury. I don't trust 12 people agreeing that a cop is guilty of a murder on the job.
He's been charged with the equivalent of manslaughter.

When I heard he remained on Mr. Floyd's neck for minutes after being told Mr. Floyd didn't have a pulse, I think that's the nail in the coffin, so to speak. If they can show in court that he must have heard that statement, that was said by another officer who took Mr. Floyd's pulse, that's the end.

That statement is in the arresting documents for Chauvin.

I still don't believe his INTENTION was to kill Mr. Floyd, but when you hear about that absolute reckless disregard for his safety, intent seems a little fuzzy. He certainly intended to do him real damage, and get away with it.

BTW, 12 complaints in 17 years doesn't sound like much to me. That's much less than one a year. I don't know the nature and seriousness of the complaints, but I would suspect cops who are out there on the streets arresting criminals get a LOT of complaints. Would be interesting to know whether this is a larger number than average.

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Old 05-30-2020, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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One juror is all it takes to have a hung jury. I don't trust 12 people agreeing that a cop is guilty of a murder on the job.
This man will never see the inside of a courtroom and jury. Look around the country. this is blood lust....and just.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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He's been charged with the equivalent of manslaughter.

I still don't believe his INTENTION was to kill Mr. Floyd, but when you hear about that absolute reckless regard for his safety, intent seems a little fuzzy. He certainly intended to do him real damage, and get away with it.
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It was absolutely his intent to kill the man. He did not feel a thing. The nazis felt the same way when they pushed the Jews into the ovens....the banality of evil. Just another day killing. No remorse, no conscience and no reward.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:20 PM
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It was absolutely his intent to kill the man. He did not feel a thing. The nazis felt the same way when they pushed the Jews into the ovens....the banality of evil. Just another day killing. No remorse, no conscience and no reward.
I don't agree. I don't think this career cop intended to kill this man in full view of a crowd of onlookers who were begging him to let Mr. Floyd up.

That doesn't make sense to me. But I do believe he meant to do grievous harm, and get away with it.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It was absolutely his intent to kill the man. He did not feel a thing. The nazis felt the same way when they pushed the Jews into the ovens....the banality of evil. Just another day killing. No remorse, no conscience and no reward.
Yeah, particularly since he knew him. There's more to the story than has been told.

And I think the other officers there should be held accountable just like you and I would be if we were in a similar situation.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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He's been charged with the equivalent of manslaughter.

When I heard he remained on Mr. Floyd's neck for minutes after being told Mr. Floyd didn't have a pulse, I think that's the nail in the coffin, so to speak. If they can show in court that he must have heard that statement, that was said by another officer who took Mr. Floyd's pulse, that's the end.

That statement is in the arresting documents for Chauvin.

I still don't believe his INTENTION was to kill Mr. Floyd, but when you hear about that absolute reckless disregard for his safety, intent seems a little fuzzy. He certainly intended to do him real damage, and get away with it.

BTW, 12 complaints in 17 years doesn't sound like much to me. That's much less than one a year. I don't know the nature and seriousness of the complaints, but I would suspect cops who are out there on the streets arresting criminals get a LOT of complaints. Would be interesting to know whether this is a larger number than average.
Listen I don't disagree that as a normal individual this would be murder 2 but it is a cop. Cops are held at a higher standard than normal people are. We saw it with King '91, we saw it with Brown in '14, we saw it with Grey in '15, and I know in my heart we see it again with Floyd. I don't like it, but I doubt Floyd's family will get justice through the court system. It is rare for an officer to be convicted and it sticks, even with video. All it takes is one juror to take the side of the officer and that's it.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:32 PM
 
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CNN right now is trying to blame the riots on “white supremacists” this might be the most intellectually dishonest media coverage I have ever seen. It’s grossly incompetent.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:34 PM
 
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CNN right now is trying to blame the riots on “white supremacists” this might be the most intellectually dishonest media coverage I have ever seen. It’s grossly incompetent.
The BLM leaders have already said its Antifa. They are there!
 
Old 05-30-2020, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Unarmed men killed by police is extremely rare. That you think that is important in the scheme of things is a reflection of your inability to understand what is important.
Not if you are black. Why do you think the country is exploding? Harsh language?
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