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Old 06-05-2020, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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No. Because the "malicious deception" of our educational system is that we teach math, science, or biology.

Be realistic here - set aside your ideology for one flippin' second, and do some 4th grade problem-solving instead.
Who dies from COVID? Old people. Who is protesting?
Who gets SICK from COVID? All people. But few show symptoms.
Who gets TESTED from COVID? People with symptoms.
How many get tested? As many and as fast as the tests allow...


In other words - the only spike you could possibly see is an increase in positive tests, matching the rate of testing, which is already rising at a pretty good clip. About 20,000 a day positive confirmed tests we add. Lots more aren't positive. It means we test 50K a day or 200K a day or .. .A LOT.

To make that number move - much - you'd have to administer lots and lots more tests - that ain't gonna happen. But if it did - and 100,000 YOUNG people just got infected - how many show symptoms and get tested? Few.

A spike at all would appear in the number of dead vulnerable relatives to these young people, a month or two from now. Kids don't care if they're sick. But they just killed gramma to throw some bricks through a window. How many "vulnerable" people will die as a result? No idea. But even if it were 1000, they would not be on the same day, and we're still burying 700-1100 EVERY day, so it will be a hard spike to notice, in any event.

You were never going to see a "crazy" spike no matter what - and it proves nothing regarding the past. But it may prove something regarding critical thinking skills and our educational system.



Holy spin Batman......

You must be dizzy.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:39 AM
 
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Ignoring politics, POTUS, and party lines; regardless I am having a hard time how all the stuff we did over the past 12 weeks and the need for social distancing just got thrown to the wind with the protesters?

Look at all the stuff being asked and considered about returning to school in the fall, modifications to workplaces, things that businesses can’t do,
Etc,

Then it’s like oh it doesn’t matter in this case.

I guess we will soon know the aftermath or lack thereof.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:46 AM
 
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If new cases of COVID-19 don't spike in the coming days due to all the protesters not practicing 'Social Distancing', yelling and screaming without wearing masks, spiting on others, etc, the Lockdown will be proven to have been a malicious deception perpetrated upon all US citizens by the Left, supported by their puppets in the MSM, in order to tank the economy as yet another attempt to discredit President Trump before the Primary Election later this year.
It could also be the end of the virus season in the Northern Hemisphere. Probably the virus was going to die Dow now anyway
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:56 AM
 
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107,000 dead Americans isn't enough? You want pictures too?


That does seem to be the one thing missing in all this.

There really hasn't been any media coverage of all this supposed carnage of the sick and dying in the hospitals.
Just numbers being spouted daily


So, uh.......

Yes.
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Old 06-05-2020, 06:00 AM
 
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Just gonna cut n paste my own post that no one cares about, I guess. This is why it's aggravating to the "facts and data" crowd. I am not providing opinion and politics. I am simply stating the obvious, and I don't know how anyone can argue it. But this is WHY there will be no huge spike. And also why it means nothing about the previous 3 months.



Who dies from COVID? Old people. And who is protesting? NOT old people.

Who gets SICK from COVID? All people. But few show symptoms.
Who gets TESTED from COVID? People with symptoms.
How many get tested? As many and as fast as the tests allow...


Will there / can there - be a spike - based on an existing 20K new cases confirmed per day? Ya think that's fake too? Maybe we test positive for strep, so we write COVID?


There will be no noticeable spike - because if ALL the protesters got sick, very few would take a test, fewer still would die, and the vulnerable folks that they ultimately kill will be but a blip on 20K...since we can't do tests any faster than we're doing them.


Use logic, people. Not politics. Math. Not emotion. Data. Not BS.


I guess if this isn't making sense to you - can you calmly and rationally express your assumptions regarding REAL numbers and what you thought would happen / what you thought you'd see / if this was "bad?"




So people going to the beach was endangering us all.....

But millions protesting and looting in the streets is no problem?





You don't actually expect anyone to believe this nonsense do you?
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Old 06-05-2020, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Where is Dr. Chicken Little Fauci warning of the grave dangers of millions of people together coughing in each others faces whilst looting. Actually if may benefit Republicans that so many Democrats are gathered spreading covid amongst themselves.

Didnt some governors say the gathering limit was 10 or fewer, they clearly did not enforce such on the "protesters"--only on the law abiding citizens; which isn't much different than the gun control issue.
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Old 06-05-2020, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Also, a few weeks ago, if you were storming the capital with assault weapons to assert your freedom for a haircut, you were a Patriot and had the support and encouragement of our POTUS, but fast forward a week and if you are out on the streets PEACEFULLY protesting for equal rights for all Americans (Protesters are protesters, looters are looters, they are not the same), you are suddenly a THUG and lawless.

Also those couple days later, the same people who thought it was a violation of freedom to stay home for health concerns have no problem with the POTUS calling up the military to point their guns at Americans protesting for rights.


My point is this, and ONLY THIS: Both sides are really being disingenuous. In both cases, people were on one side or the other, for the most part. If you are calling "the other side" hypocrites, you'd better look in a mirror. No matter what side of this you're on, you had to do some pretty big flip-flopping.

Rather than point out what's wrong with "the other side", everyone ought to be trying to find common ground.

This divisiveness is not helping anyone. Whether your support our POTUS or you don't, it's hard to call anyone else a hypocrite without self-reflecting a bit.
i don't recall protesters armed with assault weapon looting and rioting on the streets, do you? But that's in Michigan.


I live in California and our Governor Hair Gel banned and ticketed people to go to the beach/park, and revoked licenses of business who refused to follow stay at home order. Boom! all that **** goes out the window since GeorgeFloyd incident on May 25. The funny thing is I'm still not allowed to go to 24 hour fitness right now to work out due to covid19, but it's ok for 20,000 protesters to conjugate in Los Angeles screaming and spitting on each other.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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If you look at the Georgia DPH webpage, there was a spike in cases Mid-May, but deaths continued the decline. There *MIGHT* have been a small plateau of deaths May 11-13, but aisde from that, nothing but steady decline. Reopening hasn't done anything but prove that this was a giant nothing burger. The only reason people died is since there is "no treatment" for corona, no treatment was given and of course when you don't treat a disease, it gets worse, especially for the medically-fragile.

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Also, a few weeks ago, if you were storming the capital with assault weapons to assert your freedom for a haircut, you were a Patriot and had the support and encouragement of our POTUS, but fast forward a week and if you are out on the streets PEACEFULLY protesting for equal rights for all Americans (Protesters are protesters, looters are looters, they are not the same), you are suddenly a THUG and lawless.
Who was storming the capital with assault weapons? Standing around while happening to be armed is now storming???

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Also those couple days later, the same people who thought it was a violation of freedom to stay home for health concerns have no problem with the POTUS calling up the military to point their guns at Americans protesting for rights. *SNIP*
Wrong again, the vast majority of the people on that side of things have no problem with peaceful protestors. Gather, wave signs, chant, even yell if you want. But don't block the highways, and don't damage anything. That's where we draw the line and where the states need to get their people under control.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:30 AM
 
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It could also be the end of the virus season in the Northern Hemisphere. Probably the virus was going to die Dow now anyway
Here in South Carolina we are seeing cases like we saw back in April. It's been summer for months now.

We haven't had really big protests and the numbers began going up BEFORE the protests.

I don't know what it is.
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Old 06-05-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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i don't recall protesters armed with assault weapon looting and rioting on the streets, do you? But that's in Michigan.


I live in California and our Governor Hair Gel banned and ticketed people to go to the beach/park, and revoked licenses of business who refused to follow stay at home order. Boom! all that **** goes out the window since GeorgeFloyd incident on May 25. The funny thing is I'm still not allowed to go to 24 hour fitness right now to work out due to covid19, but it's ok for 20,000 protesters to conjugate in Los Angeles screaming and spitting on each other.
No one saying its ok, how do you stop that many people from going out in the streets? You can't.
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