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Flu-like symptoms, which means plenty of people can have the Coronavirus but don't see the doctor. I've never seen the doctor for flu-like symptoms in my life as the flu is a normal part of life. Seems the only difference between the flu and Coronavirus is shortness of breath.
Both Texas and Arizona, and possibly Florida, are not having a second wave because neither of them had peaked in the first wave when they started to reopen. None of the sun belt states had achieved anything close to the CDC guidelines. It really does not matter though. The sun belt is just a harbinger. COVID is going to come back across the country, far worse than before too, because the virus is still there, hardly anyone is immune, and Americans are unwilling to endure even the slightest sacrifice and, frankly, ignorant and stupid about wearing masks and avoiding crowded indoor places.
Or maybe Americans are becoming better informed and less susceptible to the fear mongering media propaganda? People went along with the lockdowns the first time because they didn't have time to question it and they were led to believe it would be a few weeks and would solve the problem. They have come to understand that officials imposing "temporary" lockdowns intend to extend those lockdowns much longer than they say. They have come to understand that locking down does not reduce the number infected in the long run. They have come to understand that if opening on May 1 results in a spike on June 1, then waiting to reopen on Aug 1 simply means a spike on Sept 1. They have come to understand that the economy will not survive a lockdown anywhere remotely close enough to "buy time" to get a vaccine. They have come to understand thatthe goal posts keep getting moved, that keeping number of "cases" from rising was not the stated goal. They have come to understand that this is not an equl opportunity disease, despite anecdotal examples, and that 95% of the most serious cases are older people with contributing factors. They have come to understand that the mortality rate is about 0.5% not 5-10%.
Americans would be a lot more willing to sacrigice if the sacrifice were defined and it would achieve positive results. Americans are not willing to make a vague and perpetual sacrifice out of emotion.
Its going to keep rising when everything is re opened whether its now or a year from now. Or we can do a month long TOTAL shutdown and home lockdown like we should have done back in April.
We're re opening things slowly and the trend is still down but we've had probably a hundred thousand or more infected already.
What I find odd is how I didn't hear of restaurants shutting down when they were providing takeout and delivery. Were their employees immune then? And I haven't heard of a single grocery store shutting down because an employee tested positive and they have perhaps even greater contact with the public than bar and restaurant workers.
Vast difference between sitting inside full of people and takeout and delivery.
Grocery stores can't shut down because everyone needs to buy groceries, but no one NEEDS to eat restaurant food.
Not that Florida really re-opened in the first place with all bars in South Florida still closed under orders of Governor DeSantis. Florida cases are hitting new records all the time, and the Testing vs Cases ratio also keeps increasing. Amazingly the Trump admin pretty much declared the pandemic a done-deal.
Restaurants again shutting their doors as coronavirus flares
On Tuesday, Texas reported an 8.3% increase in hospitalizations to a record 2,518, the largest daily jump since June 4. The rolling seven-day average rose to a record 2,243, according to the state health department.
Florida is one of of 22 states where daily coronavirus cases are rising. The state's hospitalization count has nearly doubled since May 4, when its governor relaxed a month-long stay-at-home order by letting restaurants and stores outside of South Florida open at 25% capacity. The Sunshine State reported 80,109 cases on Tuesday, an increase of 3.6% from Monday.
After biggest one-day coronavirus total, how bad could it get in Florida?
The record number came not as a spike on an otherwise flat trend line but followed two weeks of rising numbers. It comes as a growing percentage of people taking the test come up positive for the disease. And it’s accompanied by a rise in emergency room visits for flu-like symptoms since early May, a closely watched statistic thought to represent the leading edge of the disease.
Spiking includes Oklahoma. I assume Oklahoma isn't included since it's only considered a minor state to worry about.
Oh so you think overwhelming the hospital system is helping Texas economy really? You think employees and patrons of bars and restaurants getting the virus and having to shut down the restaurants in Florida is really helping their economy? You're darn right people are really stupid. But only because they are ignoring the virus and allowing it to run rampant. Do you not see what is happening? Texas and Florida are forced to shut down anyway and do you really think by ignoring the virus that helps their economies?
Like you said people are really stupid. It really seems some of you just don't get it. The economies will be forced to shut down either way. And you really just don't get it
You think the Texas hospital system is remotely close to being overwhelmed with 2500 hospitalized for covid statewide and available beds numbering over 16,000?
You think shutting down a dozen restaurants and bars while thousands of others remain open is as damaging as shutting down all of the thousands?
If you think Texas and Florida are effectively shut down anyway then we have spotted the stupid one.
What I find odd is how I didn't hear of restaurants shutting down when they were providing takeout and delivery. Were their employees immune then? And I haven't heard of a single grocery store shutting down because an employee tested positive and they have perhaps even greater contact with the public than bar and restaurant workers.
You are forgetting about the most important thing, customers who stay in thecrestaurant and eat. Without a mask of course. This is a respiratory virus. The simple act of talking while sharing a meal spews virus into the air, which is then inhaled by other patrons. A study in China found the virus was able to get I to the air conditioning ducts to spread even further.
When it was just take out, people needed to wear masks, there were only a few people let in at a time, and they did not linger in the restaurant. Less time, less viral spread, less vectors(people) that can spread the virus, hence not needing to shut down.
What choice are they going to have any way when they are overloaded with Coronavirus and they are overloading the hospital system which they are. What Choice are they going to have? Some people just do not get it. They're going to be forced to shut down the economy and ignoring the virus it's not going to help your economy not in the least bit.
Deal with it. Just like with the every other health factor in life. There is not going to be another shutdown, no matter how much you wish for it.
Sorry to tell you but is only the red States now that have coronavirus cases going up and they are forced to shut down their economies again well blue states are not having that problem right now because they are slowly still opening up and not overloading their Hospital systems the way Texas and Florida red States AR
In red states, people in their 20s haven't been taking the virus seriously.
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