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Old 06-17-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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The coronavirus will keep spreading until enough people have been exposed that it cannot spread anymore. Nothing you can do will stop that inevitably. Only fools thought ruining our economy and shutting down the world would stop that process. We are all going to get or have had coronavirus. Just let it go for crying out loud..... we do that it will be over in weeks. Most of us will hardly notice we had it. Many of us already have.

So dang tired of this foolishness. People really are stupid
Your failing to see the unparalleled irony contained within your post speaks volumes about your assumption of superior intelligence.

 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:27 AM
 
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OP fake news texas and fl not closing up again!! both are in phase 2 going soon to phase 3
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Sorry to tell you but is only the red States now that have coronavirus cases going up and they are forced to shut down their economies again well blue states are not having that problem right now because they are slowly still opening up and not overloading their Hospital systems the way Texas and Florida red States AR
You provide no provenance for your assertion just wild claims like most liberals. Texas deaths per million stand at 71, Florida is 139 and the lockdown queens of New York at at 1,593, New Jersey at 1,445. Conn at 1,181, Massachusetts at 1,141...face it Dems, your lockdowns meant to bring the economy own have had great success at screwing up the economy but has cost thousands of dead in the Democrat lockdown states.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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People were doing a lot of virtue signaling when the phases started reopening or even before. When the protests started it was at a time when most places were entering Phase 2. Still definitely NOT OKAY as far as transmission and social distancing policies. Everyone I know sat back and said/thought "OMG, look at them all gathered up like that--they should not be doing that and how is this allowed." But tell me how the optics would have looked at that point in time, after George Floyd's public death at the hands of law enforcement, to then have law enforcement somehow try to swoop down in various cities and control/contain thousands and thousands of protesters. We aren't talking about a group of 200 people. They would not even had had the manpower to accomplish it much less do so without more immediate deaths on their hands.

Honestly, I think they all just threw in the towel at that point because there was really nothing that could be safely done to stop it. That doesn't mean anyone in leadership thought it was OK.



They haven't thrown in the towel yet.

Now they're back to Trump bashing and calling his planned rally a "super spreader event".


And they may not have been able to stop the protests but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have so freely allowed them, to the point of supporting them even in very large groups and especially the riots and CHAZ in Seattle etc.

The Left apparently thinks the virus knows the difference between a George Floyd protest and a group of people at the beach......or a Trump rally.

The protests have been allowed to go on much longer than they should have. Once Chauvin and the other cops were charged, that should have been the end of it.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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OP fake news texas and fl not closing up again!! both are in phase 2 going soon to phase 3
No one said the States are closing down. Learn to read.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:37 AM
 
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For consideration:

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/4/2124275...-trump-trudeau
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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Vox is never worthy of consideration.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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Trump has nothing to do with what a state does.

It's your Governor that is setting/relaxing the rules and going into the re-opening phases.
And then your Mayor/City Council.
But Trump and Pence are dismissing/downplaying the fact that COVID is not gone. 'WE' have not prevailed.

Some communities maybe -- but the biggest states are seeing issues and the states that opened earliest are seeing problems.

It isn't Trump's fault...but the lack of leadership and failure to promote their own federal guidelines means that American residents are thinking all is okay...it isn't.

During a crisis, it isn't the fault of the leaders' the crisis exists...what their responsibility is to LEAD & MANAGE the crisis.

Not try to make it work for them and their re-election bid.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:41 AM
 
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Vox is never worthy of consideration.

Especially if it shows this federal administration to be misinformed, lying, confused about their 'success' in managing this health crisis right.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:42 AM
 
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They haven't thrown in the towel yet.

Now they're back to Trump bashing and calling his planned rally a "super spreader event".


And they may not have been able to stop the protests but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have so freely allowed them, to the point of supporting them even in very large groups and especially the riots and CHAZ in Seattle etc.

The Left apparently thinks the virus knows the difference between a George Floyd protest and a group of people at the beach......or a Trump rally.

The protests have been allowed to go on much longer than they should have. Once Chauvin and the other cops were charged, that should have been the end of it.
But how do you stop such large groups of protesters without resorting to violence and arrests. I get what your saying and it doesn't make it right, but admittedly these protests are nearly impossible to stop without it turning into a melee. I don't claim to be in the mind of every leftist in America and was definitely not paying attention to what was going on in many cities, with the exception of my own. I think our leadership here was highly uncomfortable with it but ultimately just had to go with it. I will agree that they should have spoken up much more loudly/clearly on the health dangers of it.

That said, it was outdoors, which is already proving to be almost harmless as evidenced by beach gatherings, outdoor mass, etc and it has been rare to find signficant instances of outdoor spread.

Indoors is yet another beast entirely and I don't think it's out of line to show that that an indoor political rally, even if you spread people apart, is a recipe for a super-spreader event. It just is the reality of it. Personally, I believe the RNC should take the rally to an outdoor venue. It's the responsible thing to do. Well, actually, the responsible thing to do is no rallies, no protests. Not if you're serious about keeping the lid on this thing.

Out of my own curiousity, I am really interesting in hearing the outcomes of the outdoor protests in regard to COVID transmission. Getting good data on that (and hopefully it's good news) will likely help us all feel better about future outdoor activites. Alternatively, I'll likely want to see what results from an indoor rally as it can also better inform how to handle large gatherings.
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