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Old 06-21-2020, 10:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Today being a Sunday, the numbers reported should be considered an absolute minimum which may be adjusted once clerical staff in hospitals, coroners offices and the CDC itself report back to work in the morning.

In fact, the graph on the 'worldometer' site initially linked by the OP clearly shows a drop in cases every weekend and a spike on Mondays and Tuesdays.
Correct, Toyman's cherry-picking here by using Sunday numbers. He's ignoring or overlooking the surge in new cases over the past few days. Let's look at the big picture:

There have been 122,247 deaths out of 2,356,657 known cases of COVID, implying a 5.187% death rate.


In the last 72 hours there were 93,006 new cases reported (see the new cases chart on worldometer), a sharp uptick from prior weeks. Therefore in about 10 to 14 days we can expect 4,824 more deaths, assuming that the 5.187% rate holds. That 4824 represents a daily rate of 1608 per day. Even if the fatality rate is less than 5%, those 93,006 new cases are going to cause a significant bump in the death numbers, unfortunately.
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Old 06-21-2020, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Correct, Toyman's cherry-picking here by using Sunday numbers. He's ignoring or overlooking the surge in new cases over the past few days. Let's look at the big picture:

There have been 122,247 deaths out of 2,356,657 known cases of COVID, implying a 5.187% death rate.


In the last 72 hours there were 93,006 new cases reported (see the new cases chart on worldometer), a sharp uptick from prior weeks. Therefore in about 10 to 14 days we can expect 4,824 more deaths, assuming that the 5.187% rate holds. That 4824 represents a daily rate of 1608 per day. Even if the fatality rate is less than 5%, those 93,006 new cases are going to cause a significant bump in the death numbers, unfortunately.
On April 1, we had 25,800 confirmed infections out of 123,000 tests. Today we are looking at approximately the same number of positive case per day-out of 470,000 tests. 4X as many tests-same number of positive cases. https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america And declining deaths (dropping from a 7 day average of nearly 2200 in April to 630 now.
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Old 06-21-2020, 10:31 PM
 
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Yep. 267 today-the lowest number of deaths since March 24 due to Covid. Another milestone-first week with no days over 1000 in months. This in spite of "lockdowns" being lifted in more and more places.

Bet you didn't see that on the evening news. I wonder why?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Earlier, the World Health Organization announced that today, June 21, 2020, set the global record for most new COVID cases in one day.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/w...cases-n1231681
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Old 06-21-2020, 11:01 PM
 
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Liberals are unhappy about this of course. You can tell they desperately want another lockdown. Except for people who want to go out and destroy a George Washington statue
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Old 06-21-2020, 11:03 PM
 
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Earlier, the World Health Organization announced that today, June 21, 2020, set the global record for most new COVID cases in one day.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/w...cases-n1231681
Yes because Covid is not going to just magically vanish


Luckily it has a 99% survival rate
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Old 06-21-2020, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The Media and Democrats turned the Flu into an Anthrax/Plague hybrid. Oh, no, the Second Wave!!! It is going to require more lock downs at least until Nov 5th!
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Old 06-22-2020, 12:15 AM
 
Location: NYC
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It was just reported there have been record breaking cases of covid outbreaks in 3 states that opened early. The decrease in deaths could be due to a number of reasons or factors, but it's clear covid isn't going anywhere. Continuing the fantasy that covid is a media fueled conspiracy makes you look delusional and unintelligent, much like your dear leader.
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Old 06-22-2020, 12:25 AM
 
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Correct, Toyman's cherry-picking here by using Sunday numbers. He's ignoring or overlooking the surge in new cases over the past few days. Let's look at the big picture:

There have been 122,247 deaths out of 2,356,657 known cases of COVID, implying a 5.187% death rate.


In the last 72 hours there were 93,006 new cases reported (see the new cases chart on worldometer), a sharp uptick from prior weeks. Therefore in about 10 to 14 days we can expect 4,824 more deaths, assuming that the 5.187% rate holds. That 4824 represents a daily rate of 1608 per day. Even if the fatality rate is less than 5%, those 93,006 new cases are going to cause a significant bump in the death numbers, unfortunately.

30,000 cases in last 2 days...biggest numbers since May 1...rapidly going up in about half the states in the nation now too...


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/20/us-r...nce-may-1.html
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Old 06-22-2020, 12:44 AM
 
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Correct, Toyman's cherry-picking here by using Sunday numbers. He's ignoring or overlooking the surge in new cases over the past few days. Let's look at the big picture:

There have been 122,247 deaths out of 2,356,657 known cases of COVID, implying a 5.187% death rate.


In the last 72 hours there were 93,006 new cases reported (see the new cases chart on worldometer), a sharp uptick from prior weeks. Therefore in about 10 to 14 days we can expect 4,824 more deaths, assuming that the 5.187% rate holds. That 4824 represents a daily rate of 1608 per day. Even if the fatality rate is less than 5%, those 93,006 new cases are going to cause a significant bump in the death numbers, unfortunately.
For every one of those 122,247 diagnosed cases, there are probably 5-10 times as many cases that went undiagnosed because back in March and April, you had to have severe symptoms to get tested. Now anyone can get tested, so of course, there will be an increase in diagnosed cases. Therefore, the death rate is over 5 percent is wildly inflated because when you take into account the undiagnosed cases back in April, the death rate will probably be around 0.5-1 percent. A better indication of the death rate is, out of the people diagnosed in the past 7 days, to look at how the death rates are a month from now. If the 7 day daily average of deaths continue to decline, then we know the increase in cases is due to testing. Even if the cases are actually increasing, it might be that now, more young and healthy people are getting it who will very likely recover but if they pass it to people who are less healthy, we can look for an uptick in deaths later in summer. As for Sunday's numbers being the lowest, it is the case every week but every Sunday in the past 6 weeks have been lower than the previous Sunday. Same with when you compare the decline across Mondays or spike day Tuesday. That's why I prefer the 7 day average over daily averages. Speaking of which, this past week was the first week with every single day being under 1,000 including this past Tuesday when all the unaccounted deaths over the weekend are thrown in.
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Old 06-22-2020, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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You are celebrating 267 deaths?

That's ghoulish.
So you're mad less people are dying of covid eh? That's sick.
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