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Old 07-14-2020, 07:15 PM
 
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there's a big different between a positive "rate" of 4%.....and 20%

projections are made on those numbers....how we are told to act is based on those numbers

..when the percentage of people positive increases...schools, jobs, bars, etc are shut down
Can you point out any policy direction resulting from percentages of tests vs percentage of population? If you send in two samples and both are positive that's 100% and if both are negative that is 100%. Nobody is making policy changes based on that let alone 20% for specific facilities. A particular facility, though, will red flag it and imo it's an issue for them.

And there was good reason it was noticed. It's outside the norm. My spouse is a covid lab supervisor. Even when we have gotten tested he's usually not worried because of typical low percentages of positives and MA was a high state to boot at one point. None of this changes the very serious situation in florida unless the actual number of positives are wrong.

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Old 07-14-2020, 07:17 PM
 
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BTW-dont get sidetracked like I did by the 20% positive claim number. Im not seeing that in any of the data, including the data from the prior week that puts it at 4%. What a waste of energy that I had to go through and look at all this over the usual nonsense from Brietbart.
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:18 PM
 
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Yes, Republicans seem to not want to learn and accept "that hifalutin' sciencey stuff".
No need if you're a stable genius who tremendously groks it all.
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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https://www.breitbart.com/health/202...id-19-numbers/


Not a surprise at all. I bet its happening across the country, just like people being marked they died from covid when they didn't but they died during this so they got tagged with it. Its all a political game to take out Trump. Sickening to use American's lives to advance a political agenda but really I don't put anything past people who hate America.
Even is numbers are being inflated, we are still seeing the numbers drop like a stone.

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Look at the graph. On July 4th, the most recent numbers the CDC has, only 180 people died, not thousands. Only 5 people died in the 44 and younger age group. compare that with April 18th when we had 14,000 or so.
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:24 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Even is numbers are being inflated, we are still seeing the numbers drop like a stone.

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Look at the graph. On July 4th, the most recent numbers the CDC has, only 180 people died, not thousands. Only 5 people died in the 44 and younger age group. compare that with April 18th when we had 14,000 or so.
Strange, the liars in the media and Democrats (by definition liars) never mention these facts.
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:29 PM
 
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I didn't read this whole thread - because there is already one just like it on C-D. The only "scam" is the headline that was invented for this non-issue. Go look at the actual data (it's in the link at the top). Lots of places reported 100% positive cases...because they only tested 1 person. No scam. Data.



There were about 300K total tests - about 10% are in the place this article is looking. If they are ALL fake, it wouldn't change a thing.



I'm not saying there can't be weird things with numbers - but is NOT ONE OF THEM. Do not look for problems where there aren't any, we have enough bozos running around. Seriously - really - please - look at the data yourself before you believe a word of this article.
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:29 PM
 
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Even is numbers are being inflated, we are still seeing the numbers drop like a stone.

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Look at the graph. On July 4th, the most recent numbers the CDC has, only 180 people died, not thousands. Only 5 people died in the 44 and younger age group. compare that with April 18th when we had 14,000 or so.

LOL. You do know we have more recent numbers. Wonder why you dont want to use them.....hmmm...


The deaths on July 4th are from infections that occured mid August. When the infections were still dropping.


Now they are rising rapidly in most places, and you are look at deaths from almost 2 weeks ago.


Your efforts to contort yourself in ways to deny reality is fascinating.



180 people dead on the 4th....902 on the 7th. This attempt to deny reality is pretty sad.
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Old 07-14-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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Strange, the liars in the media and Democrats (by definition liars) never mention these facts.
After next week Trump will not allow you to review that data. You'll blame the dems, of course, but you're warned
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Old 07-15-2020, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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That is a percentage of the testing population and really, nobody even pays attention to it. People pay attention to the positive rate relative to the total population. Has that changed? That is important to know.
Let's call a spade a spade. People read whatever they want out of numbers or reports. People look to Arizona's cases which have been decreasing, mind you we have been in a little bit of a heatwave so in-car testing locations might be canceled about halfway through the day and there are allegations of shortages of nasal swabs and the vials for the swabs in some areas so testing itself is slightly decreasing. Also there are several days where Arizona have a lab report too late and it doesn't get into the morning report released roughly 8:30 AM MST/PDT. Does that mean Maricopa county isn't a hotspot anymore? Maybe, we have to see how trends continue. The rate of positivity has slightly gone down though. I can only hope things are slowing down but who knows. A month out from re-opening schools...
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Old 07-15-2020, 03:49 AM
 
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Let's call a spade a spade. People read whatever they want out of numbers or reports. People look to Arizona's cases which have been decreasing, mind you we have been in a little bit of a heatwave so in-car testing locations might be canceled about halfway through the day and there are allegations of shortages of nasal swabs and the vials for the swabs in some areas so testing itself is slightly decreasing. Also there are several days where Arizona have a lab report too late and it doesn't get into the morning report released roughly 8:30 AM MST/PDT. Does that mean Maricopa county isn't a hotspot anymore? Maybe, we have to see how trends continue. The rate of positivity has slightly gone down though. I can only hope things are slowing down but who knows. A month out from re-opening schools...
From my POV I don't know if any number of positives per day is acceptable. In MA we have 200+/day. Not low enough. Forget thousands per day.
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