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View Poll Results: Do you support the statement Black Lives Matter
I support the statement Black Lives Matter not the organization 48 27.59%
I support both the statement Black Lives Matter and the organization 16 9.20%
I don’t support the Black Lives Matter statement or the organization 97 55.75%
I don’t care 13 7.47%
Voters: 174. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-19-2020, 07:25 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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There's no need to add a "too", though.

The statement "black lives matter" doesn't logically require anyone else's lives to matter less. That's simply knee-jerk defensiveness from people that are uncomfortable with the idea that black folks might be getting the pointy end of the stick.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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yet that accounts for 80% of violent deaths among African Americans.



10 unarmed black people were killed by police last year
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And?

If you think the black community should be focusing efforts elsewhere, take it up with them. Wrongful death at the hands of the very people entrusted to "protect and serve" the public is especially heinous, IMO.
I've recently linked to an article on a TCarlson segment - yes, I know - where he goes over them 1 by 1. Don't believe TC, then google the names and the incidents. I did just this on those it seemed possible TC was glossing over.

if you read up on those 10 people, then you find in 2 instances, the cops have been charged. Maybe in 2-3 others, they could have been. Then among the 10 are the convenience store robber who jumped on a female cop, and in the struggle she shot him.

*So, do we as a nation need to continue demanding the highest level of professionalism from those with the means to harm us - LEO & military? Of course.

*If even more - because it already exists - community policing will help reduce crime and improve the relationship with Black communities, then let's do more.

*If we need the overwhelming majority of good cops to do a better job rooting out the bad cops, let's do that.

*And if we need more/better upfront training and even ongoing training of cops, then let's do that.

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But let's not claim or support any organization that does say "They're hunting us."

Let's not support an organization that says "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon." Or that promotes #ACAB - all cops are bad.

Let's not say "death by police" is a leading cause of death for Black men when the chances are 1 in 1,000, vs many other also preventable means.

And let's not claim they're akin to Komen/breast cancer vs LLS/leukemia.

BLM is no more just "police brutality" - which might be 10% of the problem facing blacks when their own mission statement is (in the order of importance they chose):

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BLM’s #WhatMatters2020 will focus on issues concerning racial injustice, police brutality, criminal justice reform, Black immigration, economic injustice, LGBTQIA+ and human rights, environmental injustice, access to healthcare, access to quality education, and voting rights and suppression.
their stated aims are far more wide-ranging than whatever part of the problem lies in cop/Black interaction.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:05 AM
 
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so if black lives matter why in the hell do they kill each other by the hundreds every month?

seems to me the movement is only political and all talk and until they stopping killing themselves i wont be part of this bs movement
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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"Liberal funders such as George Soros, Rob McKay, and other Democracy Alliance donors have given millions of dollars to groups associated with the movement, which have in total raked in over $133 million".
https://www.influencewatch.org/movem...-lives-matter/

BLM does NOT really care about black lives. If thy did they would be going into the ghettos of Chicago, Balt. etc. and try to STOP the daily killing of blacks by OTHER blacks.

More WHITES are killed by cops then blacks. 90% of ALL killings are justified. They don't care if is a justified killing or not.

Their entire being is B.S. They started after the Michael brown indecent. When after ALL the rioting and looting we find it was BROWN who was the perpetrator NOT the white cop.
it's theoretically much higher than 90%.

Here's a comprehensive website. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/states

Cops kill right at 1,000 people annually.
Cops killed 115 unarmed people total last year - and as per above, we know some of those were justified.

Anyone that wants is welcome to use that link and research all 115 cases - the names are provided.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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Surprise! Surprise! 58% do NOT support the BLM. We just need to get the rest of America to WAKE UP!
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Surprise! Surprise! 58% do NOT support the BLM. We just need to get the rest of America to WAKE UP!
Its now 60%, and the rest of America already knows BLM is a minority radical left sliver of the Democrat party.

Blacks are more affluent, and have more freedoms here in America than in any other country, & the vast majority of us continue to keep it moving in that direction.

Discrimination is dying a slow death here, and what little is left is largely media contrived, & hyped.

Ignore the media's agenda, and effort to sell advertising by sensationalizing the stupid acts of a few wacky people.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Stafford County
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The organization is a wing of the Democratic Party. But the statement Black Lives Matter is true and is at the heart of most Americans
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I am tired of identity politics that divide us. All lives matter ,that includes all of us.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Why can't both be problems that need to be dealt with?

It's not just cops killing someone that is a problem. It's cops beating people up. It's the abuse of power and the systemic problem with the code of silence and massive cover ups.

I posted a link to a local article within the past month where a cop who blew the whistle on a bad cop in his department was fired.

Only one cop killed Laquon McDonald, but how many more people put the lid on it - all the way up to the Mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel?

THAT is the problem.
indeed it is.

Instead, the narrative pushed is that #ACAB
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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There are some things blacks shouldn’t blame people on but they’re are also stuff such as 1 Jim Crow Laws that have tried to suppress blacks people that still exists today. 2 You also have prejudice, police reform and brutality,3 home ownership in black communities, better education for blacks, economic equality for blacks and so on. While the govt should help blacks must also work for this.
on the first ..... which Jim Crow laws or practices still exist today?

the second - there will ALWAYS be prejudice and even discrimination, and it's not only race, and it's not only white people doing this to black people.

on the third, in order it's:

Education
Economic equality
Home ownership
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