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View Poll Results: Do you support the statement Black Lives Matter
I support the statement Black Lives Matter not the organization 48 27.59%
I support both the statement Black Lives Matter and the organization 16 9.20%
I don’t support the Black Lives Matter statement or the organization 97 55.75%
I don’t care 13 7.47%
Voters: 174. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-19-2020, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Exactly! Leftists have it so turned around in their Reverse World that anyone who says something that includes everybody - blacks, whites, bi-racials, gays, etc., - is now being accused of pushing "anti-black propaganda."

Besides which, BLM - the organization itself - is racist and anti-Semitic, and I don't support an organization that hates me for my skin color and/or my religion. What kind of crazy leftist DEMANDS that people support a hate group that says horrible things about them??
Nice to know you saw my question and ran away from answering it.

At this point, I'm seeing your cowardice in answering questions that reveal too much about your ideology is a feature, not a flaw.
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Old 07-19-2020, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Then list your objections to a group fighting for Black equality that aren't racist or outright lies about the organization. I'll wait.

Blacks don't need assistance or groups to succeed. They need to make dramatic changes within their own communities which in turn will create and foster the values they currently lack. Other minority groups have figured it out, and eventually blacks will too. Maybe.
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Old 07-19-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Blacks don't need assistance or groups to succeed. They need to make dramatic changes within their own communities which in turn will create and foster the values they currently lack. Other minority groups have figured it out, and eventually blacks will too. Maybe.
Lol... And you're here trying to claim your opposition to BLM isn't racist, but claim that Black people lack values to succeed.

Yeah... You and Rachel are definitely birds of a feather.
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Old 07-19-2020, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Lol... And you're here trying to claim your opposition to BLM isn't racist, but claim that Black people lack values to succeed.

In 100 years from now, blacks will be in the same position they are now. This will be on the shoulders of people like you, not me.
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Old 07-19-2020, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Obviously black lives don’t matter or else people would be outraged at the black on black crime in the cities. The only people talking about that are conservative people and they are criticized for doing so.
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Old 07-19-2020, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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In 100 years from now, blacks will be in the same position they are now. This will be on the shoulders of people like you, not me.
Yep... Keep digging that racism hole with your racism shovel while claiming you're not racist. Cracks me up how you made such a production out of claiming your opposition to BLM isn't racist, then immediately dip into racism 101 talking points. Either today's racist are the shallow end of the intelligence pool or they just deny it out of spite.
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Yep... Keep digging that racism hole with your racism shovel while claiming you're not racist. Cracks me up how you made such a production out of claiming your opposition to BLM isn't racist, then immediately dip into racism 101 talking points. Either today's racist are the shallow end of the intelligence pool or they just deny it out of spite.

When people have no logical response they just cry "RACISM". Everything is "racist" to a person who wants to find racism in everything. Yet, you don't think BLM is racist? This makes me sad for you.
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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When people have no logical response they just cry "RACISM". Everything is "racist" to a person who wants to find racism in everything. Yet, you don't think BLM is racist? This makes me sad for you.
You might have some credibility with that argument if you didn't go on back to back racist spiels.

I gave you the chance to explain your opposition to BLM without being racist and the best argument you could come up with is.... Blacks don't have the values to succeed.

JFC.... Do I need to say anymore?
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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There's no need to add a "too", though.

The statement "black lives matter" doesn't logically require anyone else's lives to matter less.
That's simply knee-jerk defensiveness from people that are uncomfortable with the idea that black folks might be getting the pointy end of the stick.
I agree with this. The phrase itself doesn't bother me and I get it. They were arguing about treatment of their own people - they didn't need to include everyone else as though they were elected to speak for everyone.
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I gave you the chance to explain your opposition to BLM without being racist and the best argument you could come up with is.... Blacks don't have the values to succeed.
Why does BLM protest white owned businesses? How is that not racist?

Why does BLM not call out the looting of black owned businesses by blacks and hold them accountable?

Why does BLM want to eradicate law enforcement instead of pushing for comprehensive police reform?

Why does BLM not be true to their name and focus on the #1 cause of black murders (other blacks)?

Why does BLM not call out the criminals that are vandalizing and destroying statues and monuments in their name?

BLM is a criminal enterprise at this point. They need to be treated as such.
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