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That's a good way to eliminate police departments without going through all this defunding hoopla. A use of deadly force ban unless a gun is pointed directly at you. I guess you could have a department of cops who enjoy playing Russian Roulette in their spare time.
Why should it? The cops sign up for a job, in full knowledge of the risk. You don't see fire fighters bitching that they should have special privilege because their job requires them to play with fire and reminding everyone at every opportunity that they do.
I'm a firm believer that the cops should have no more right to deadly force than any other citizen. Take your pick, either the use of deadly force of citizens is relaxed to the levels cops enjoy, or cops need to demonstrate imminent threat of death or serious injury to self or others as everyone else does.
You've got the wrong thread. If police acted inappropriately they should be dealt with
This thread is about what every person can do to avoid ever getting into that situation in the first place. If you comply with police instructions there will not be the opportunity for a cop to act appropriately or inappropriately. There is no reason to take that chance, even morons can be taught that simple, correct course of action.
Apparently not. It's not helping when idiots post Facebook/Twitter/YouTube videos of themselves antagonizing police during a simple traffic stop. Asking for a confrontation. Frequently staged, I'd bet... and looking for a payday.
So as a society, the USA is saying if someone is concerned for their safety and resists arrest -- it is open season for the cops to kill.
Weigh the punishment vs. sthe benefit.
When I was a teen I snuck out to meet up with friends. Cops 'crashed' our little late night rendezvous -- we all ran. Thank goodness they didn't shoot us.
When we were teens - you didn't have what's going on today with everyone carrying knives and guns. Had he cop caught you - he would have driven you home in the back of a squad car and your dad would have kicked your butt - there was no need for the police to do anything because RESPONSIBILITY was taught.
I've read (from former cops) about some cops keeping vendettas (if that's the right word) against certain men they've encountered or arrested before. The cop will have a bad experience arresting someone & then see this same person down the road & carry out revenge. Basically what the cop will do is set the person up to fail while arresting them. Like make it look like the person is becoming violent on video or reaching for a weapon or give the person a command they know they won't follow. Such as purposely get the person all riled up and then give them a command they're too emotional to follow. Then say hey, they're not following orders & are resisting arrest, lets instigate this further so they'll reach for a weapon.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened here since Jacob Blake was arrested before & he was tackled on the ground at one point. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the cop just happened to let him back up & let him walk to his van, so he'd have a reason to shoot him. Believe it or not there are some cops like that.
Lt Governor Mandela Barnes even said yesterday
"This felt like some sort of vendetta taken out on a member of our community."
Why should it? The cops sign up for a job, in full knowledge of the risk. You don't see fire fighters bitching that they should have special privilege because their job requires them to play with fire and reminding everyone at every opportunity that they do.
I'm a firm believer that the cops should have no more right to deadly force than any other citizen. Take your pick, either the use of deadly force of citizens is relaxed to the levels cops enjoy, or cops need to demonstrate imminent threat of death or serious injury to self or others as everyone else does.
I'll assume you didn't read the post I responded to: even if there was a weapon, he has to pick it up and point it at the cop for it to be a good shoot,
If you think a regular citizen can't use deadly force unless a weapon is pointed directly at them, you need to brush-up on self defense laws.
I'll assume you didn't read the post I responded to: even if there was a weapon, he has to pick it up and point it at the cop for it to be a good shoot,
If you think a regular citizen can't use deadly force unless a weapon is pointed directly at them, you need to brush-up on self defense laws.
Sure, but, consider the vast majority of events the police use lethal force, then consider a normal citizen using that same level of force in that situation, and decide, would you as a normal person be able to argue and win a self defense case?
Even in this instance its highly doubtful a regular Joe or Jill could successfully argue self defense, given the footage.
Cops are supposedly trained to deal with people who don’t comply.
Hell, there was the white guy in Vegas doing everything he could to comply with an officer and he was still killed by the cop.. and the cop wasn’t charged.
You guys really need to stop defending cops who are trash. It’s not a good look.
When we were teens - you didn't have what's going on today with everyone carrying knives and guns. Had he cop caught you - he would have driven you home in the back of a squad car and your dad would have kicked your butt - there was no need for the police to do anything because RESPONSIBILITY was taught.
Cops are supposedly trained to deal with people who don’t comply.
Hell, there was the white guy in Vegas doing everything he could to comply with an officer and he was still killed by the cop.. and the cop wasn’t charged.
You guys really need to stop defending cops who are trash. It’s not a good look.
Nobody is defending trash cops, trash cops need to be dealt with
What you need to do is stop defending street thug culture and uncivilized behavior. Everyone has responsibilities in this country, why is it some people think they're special and the rules don't apply to them? BLM should be telling everyone to comply with police and to raise their kids with higher standards, instead they're out trying to get rid of all cops and take apart families.
Up is down, down is up, welcome to the land of the postmodern woke
Land of the imprisoned, home of the trigger-happy police:
Do what you're told or you're next.
That's just BS. Those countries don't compare to the US. Take our black population and send them to Country A and watch those stats change.
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