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View Poll Results: Should We Start Focusing on Non-Compliance in these Police Involved Incidents?
Yes 143 89.38%
No 17 10.63%
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Old 08-26-2020, 02:03 AM
 
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Land of the imprisoned, home of the trigger-happy police:



Do what you're told or you're next.
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Old 08-26-2020, 02:10 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Land of the imprisoned, home of the trigger-happy police
They have to be, we are a nation of guns. Police will always be on edge, that will never change

That's why it's so important to comply with police instructions and not resist arrest.
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Old 08-26-2020, 02:14 AM
 
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It's a given that criminals are morons with little self control or good judgment. However, the police are supposed to be the opposite of that and able to handle and de escalate situations peacefully if at all officer. PEACE OFFICERS. Maintain the peace as well as to police which means to keep an area safe and under control and orderly.
If they react in panic or aggressively in a confrontation where its not needed, how are they better than the criminals or problem citizens?
These people, the George Floyds, the Jacob Blakes, may not be the most upstranding citizens or sharpest knives in the drawer, but they aren't dogs to be shot down indiscriminately unless they cross a line. Putting a few knots on his empty noggin and let him think about what he did as he sits in a cell is better than him laying on deaths door in a hospital room. That cop is as responsible for Kenosha's damages now as th e low lifes doing the rioting.
But the progressives keep demanding a police state, this is exactly what they'll get. And when they come crawling to the conservatives to kiss their ass and beg them to defend them, we'll be too busy trying to protect ourselves from the deep state they once so slavishly supported.
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Old 08-26-2020, 02:36 AM
 
Location: New York City
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It's a given that criminals are morons with little self control or good judgment. However, the police are supposed to be the opposite of that and able to handle and de escalate situations peacefully if at all officer. PEACE OFFICERS. Maintain the peace as well as to police which means to keep an area safe and under control and orderly.
If they react in panic or aggressively in a confrontation where its not needed, how are they better than the criminals or problem citizens?
These people, the George Floyds, the Jacob Blakes, may not be the most upstranding citizens or sharpest knives in the drawer, but they aren't dogs to be shot down indiscriminately unless they cross a line. Putting a few knots on his empty noggin and let him think about what he did as he sits in a cell is better than him laying on deaths door in a hospital room. That cop is as responsible for Kenosha's damages now as th e low lifes doing the rioting.
But the progressives keep demanding a police state, this is exactly what they'll get. And when they come crawling to the conservatives to kiss their ass and beg them to defend them, we'll be too busy trying to protect ourselves from the deep state they once so slavishly supported.
You've got the wrong thread. If police acted inappropriately they should be dealt with

This thread is about what every person can do to avoid ever getting into that situation in the first place. If you comply with police instructions there will not be the opportunity for a cop to act appropriately or inappropriately. There is no reason to take that chance, even morons can be taught that simple, correct course of action.
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Welp, the gofundme now has $1.3 Million

https://www.gofundme.com/f/justiceforjacobblake
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:23 AM
 
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After Biden is elected and makes wearing masks mandatory because he considers it a life-or-death issue anyone -- white or black -- who walks away after being ordered by a police officer to put on a mask will be in non-compliance and subject to summary execution.
There we go again with the extreme dramatics that progressives go to when they can’t win an argument. Nobody is going to be executed for not wearing a mask. But a known violent criminal who ignores police orders to halt and goes to his car to retrieve something that very likely is a weapon is putting the lives of the cops in danger, and they are entitled to defend themselves. A criminal thug’s life is not worth more than a cop’s.

If you progressives keep defending violent criminals and demonizing the people who are trying to protect us from them, nobody will want to be a cop. Then the lowlife scumbag thugs will have the run of the city, doing everything from burning down buildings, beating up elderly business owners, kicking people unconscious, and torturing poor animals. Is that what you want? To live in total chaos so that Marxism can take over?

What is happening is straight out of Alinsky. But eve he did not say to go to this extent. He said to destroy the country economically, which was being done vis all the lockdowns. Even he didn’t predict a racist, terrorist Marxist group would take advantage of the opening to engender violence throughout the country.
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:45 AM
 
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The guy in WI could very well have had a weapon in the car. We cant see. If the cop who fired saw him reaching for a gun inside the car then it was a good shoot.

even if there was a weapon, he has to pick it up and point it at the cop for it to be a good shoot,
seven in the back is attempted murder
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:50 AM
 
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even if there was a weapon, he has to pick it up and point it at the cop for it to be a good shoot,
seven in the back is attempted murder
You’re kidding. The cop has to wait until the thug has him in his crosshairs before he can defend himself? Then the cop himself is more likely to die. Why put so much more value on the life of a criminal than on the life of the cop? Let me guess....you’re a liberal.

What was so important in that car that the criminal thug had to defy police orders to halt that he had to go get it? He needed an apple he had under the steering wheel? Or maybe he had a sweater there and he was chilly?

Sorry, but the idiot criminal did this to himself. Of other idiot criminals had any brains, this could be a lesson to them: comply with police orders.
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Old 08-26-2020, 04:14 AM
 
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The ship print case here in Lafayette Louisiana is a perfect example. The police were called about a disturbance of a man armed with a knife. For nearly a half mile the police tried to talk to the man to stop and drop the knife and tried using their tasers with no effect. They resisted using their guns until he tried to enter a store with the knife. His full criminal history was published which included possession with intent for cocaine and marijuana as well as multiple parole violations for not attending drug rehabilitation. The local response to these facts are divided. Some say this shows the police were justified. Some are saying NONE of the facts matter other than the cops shot a black man to death. They say this even while acknowledging he had a knife and was about to enter the store. Some even said they should have used batons instead of guns. When I brought up Rodney King as to how you most cops avoid using batons they say I’m crazy. Locally some people looted one urban clothing store and blocked traffic on certain major roads. In both cases (the roads) the police put a stop to their actions before things got out of hand.
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Old 08-26-2020, 04:32 AM
 
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even if there was a weapon, he has to pick it up and point it at the cop for it to be a good shoot,
seven in the back is attempted murder
That's a good way to eliminate police departments without going through all this defunding hoopla. A use of deadly force ban unless a gun is pointed directly at you. I guess you could have a department of cops who enjoy playing Russian Roulette in their spare time.
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