BACK THE BLUE!!.....But what if they don't back you? (radical, racist)
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That's just....a false dilemma. No one is choosing between human life and property. Burning down buildings is wrong in and of itself. It has nothing to do with any cause.
However, no one has ever asked the arsonist how they KNOW the building they burn to the ground are empty. Answer: they don't. And they don't care.
BOTH destroying property and refusing to wear a mask during this pandemic are wrong.
No one is naive enough to think the police are perfect, or that we won't be on the wrong side of the police, in spite of being innocent. Naive, childish, utopian thinking is the hallmark of today's anti-police hysteria. It's the institution of policing that I support. The facts show that they are overwhelmingly on the side of law-abiding people. And we have no other institution to protect us from gangs, murderers, rapists, human traffickers, thieves, etc. and to bring them to justice.
No one is naive enough to think the police are perfect, or that we won't be on the wrong side of the police, in spite of being innocent. Naive, childish, utopian thinking is the hallmark of today's anti-police hysteria. It's the institution of policing that I support. The facts show that they are overwhelmingly on the side of law-abiding people. And we have no other institution to protect us from gangs, murderers, rapists, human traffickers, thieves, etc. and to bring them to justice.
The other thing to keep in mind is the SCALE. Police have encounters with 50 million different people a year, and one time out of million, a mistake will be made. No profession is perfect, and there are millions of cops, who are dealing with tens of millions of people, many repeat criminals who are belligerent and defiant (and high or drunk). What’s amazing is that there are so FEW of these incidents.
Good patriotic Americans are NOT going to sit by and tolerate police arresting people for simply defending themselves or their property!!
Yep.
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Originally Posted by TRex2
If it is one or two cops causing the problem, take names, take videos, expose them.
If it is the political powers, or a lot of cops in your area, then you have to realize that tolerance of criminals attracts criminals, criminal activity attracts more criminals, and it is a vicious cycle.
In that case, the answer is location.
As in move.
Not everyone has the resources to just pick up and leave on a whim. Don't get me wrong, I think every law abiding citizen should get the hell out of any of the mid sized to major urban areas run by democrats. Again, not everyone has the means to do so however.
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Originally Posted by SandraMoore66
And yet they are told to stand down when it comes to rioters and looters. I mean seriously, who’s the bigger threat here?
No comparison. We know the answer.
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Originally Posted by Rachel976
Not wearing a mask doesn’t mean that you are transmitting the virus. Burning down other people’s property does guarantee that you are destroying other people’s property. Looting is stealing from businesses and perhaps causing them to lose their livelihoods.
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur
People who willfully violate mask/social distancing orders should be arrested. Christianity has nothing to do with it. If they were Christian, they would be following the orders. The police are correct to arrest them, just as any other individual who breaks the law. And when the police do act wrongfully, they should also be held responsible.
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur
Both can cause serious harm or even death to others. That people continue to disregard that fact when it comes to people refusing to wear a mask is truly disgusting. Over 200K people have died from the virus and many more are suffering. You can’t run a business if you’re dead.
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur
But you answered the question: you think people who don’t wear a mask are worse than lowlife scumbags looting stores and committing arson. You would sooner forgive an arsonist than a person not wearing a mask.
I don't understand what planet you live on and what planet people with your mindset live on.
Here's the deal:
You have the government FORCEFULLY putting people out of business then telling them to "hold tight", with no plan to help them get back on their feet. People losing jobs and then being told to "hold tight, take this 1200 check" (which is OUR money to begin with). Do you think people are just going to sit around on their butts all day and just wait around for the government and these agencies to tell them when they can do business when its "safe"?
Then to top it off, you have rioters and looters burning their businesses to the ground. Solidifying that many of these businesses will never open again or some of them never returning the same way.
YET, big tech companies, big box stores, fast food chains whom are worth billions, see their markets go sky high. THEY can operate, have people filled to the brim, crammed like sardines. COSTCO, Amazon, Uber Eats, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Target (to name a few) are NOT hurting right now.
The small and medium businesses have to eat all the dung. If you have a small and medium business that has 5-10 stores, having one burned to the ground is a BIG friggin deal.
Where as if Target, Walmart, McDonalds burn to the ground for instance, they can lose a dozen, a few dozen even. They have literally THOUSANDS of stores scattered throughout North America and/or internationally.
So let me ask you: Should those big box stores be held accountable for the death of people? According to your logic.
I don't understand people with your mindset. What is going on? Do you guys not work? Don't have a livelihood? Are you guys set for the bet? Serious question.
I don't understand what planet you live on and what planet people with your mindset live on.
Here's the deal:
You have the government FORCEFULLY putting people out of business then telling them to "hold tight", with no plan to help them get back on their feet. People losing jobs and then being told to "hold tight, take this 1200 check" (which is OUR money to begin with). Do you think people are just going to sit around on their butts all day and just wait around for the government and these agencies to tell them when they can do business when its "safe"?
Then to top it off, you have rioters and looters burning their businesses to the ground. Solidifying that many of these businesses will never open again or some of them never returning the same way.
YET, big tech companies, big box stores, fast food chains whom are worth billions, see their markets go sky high. THEY can operate, have people filled to the brim, crammed like sardines. COSTCO, Amazon, Uber Eats, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Target (to name a few) are NOT hurting right now.
The small and medium businesses have to eat all the dung. If you have a small and medium business that has 5-10 stores, having one burned to the ground is a BIG friggin deal.
Where as if Target, Walmart, McDonalds burn to the ground for instance, they can lose a dozen, a few dozen even. They have literally THOUSANDS of stores scattered throughout North America and/or internationally.
So let me ask you: Should those big box stores be held accountable for the death of people? According to your logic.
I don't understand people with your mindset. What is going on? Do you guys not work? Don't have a livelihood? Are you guys set for the bet? Serious question.
Not sure what you’re rambling on about. Wear a mask. Don’t riot or loot. It’s simple.
The other thing to keep in mind is the SCALE. Police have encounters with 50 million different people a year, and one time out of million, a mistake will be made. No profession is perfect, and there are millions of cops, who are dealing with tens of millions of people, many repeat criminals who are belligerent and defiant (and high or drunk). What’s amazing is that there are so FEW of these incidents.
Yet the media and activists have people believing that police are gunning people down every day. Let's see how much better their 'public safety forces' and 'violence interrupters' do. The thing is...the people who will die are regular civilians...at the hands of criminals. No one 'says their name.' They are just a number: "15 killed this weekend..."
No one is naive enough to think the police are perfect, or that we won't be on the wrong side of the police, in spite of being innocent. Naive, childish, utopian thinking is the hallmark of today's anti-police hysteria. It's the institution of policing that I support. The facts show that they are overwhelmingly on the side of law-abiding people. And we have no other institution to protect us from gangs, murderers, rapists, human traffickers, thieves, etc. and to bring them to justice.
Right.
And that's my gripe: The police should be worrying about much more serious crime that has been on the rise. Yet you have some of these officers whom responding to much more trivial non-sense. And I am pretty damn sure that they are aware there's much more to worry about.
Not sure what you’re rambling on about. Wear a mask. Don’t riot or loot. It’s simple.
The post you are referring to is about the discrepancy between how big business is treated vs. small business. We all wear masks where I live. There is no problem there. Yet there are no social distancing, occupancy limits, or contact tracking requirements for big box stores. There never has been!
Meanwhile, small businesses such as my own, were closed. We were closed for nearly six months! And in order to open, we have countless rules, inspections, and occupancy limits. Money doesn't grow on trees. The double standard is crazy, and if their rationale is 'saving lives' they are better to let the small businesses stay open, and limit the Home Depots where people jam in like sardines.
I support the police, yet I fully understand that in this pandemic the police can go after my business for operating even if we are doing so safely, and even if we are doing the same things a big box store can do with impunity. Or the protesters: there are no rules for them. Video footage from Louisville has them cramming into a Unitarian church last night to avoid arrest, not all of them masked.
And that's my gripe: The police should be worrying about much more serious crime that has been on the rise. Yet you have some of these officers whom responding to much more trivial non-sense. And I am pretty damn sure that they are aware there's much more to worry about.
That's the thing lately....they go after minor rule breakers while letting rioters and protesters go free. No one is checking temperatures at protests, enforcing mask compliance, or distancing. I've yet to see a police officer go after Lowes or Costco for over-crowding.
Not sure what you’re rambling on about. Wear a mask. Don’t riot or loot. It’s simple.
The issue is that you are making these parallel - that a person not wearing a mask is as much a criminal as a rioting thug burning down buildings, looting, and throwing bricks. When I see someone not wearing a mask, I just steer clear. If I saw someone looting my store and smashing the windows, there’s nothing I can do.
What you’re attempting to do is transparent: show that “both sides” are wrong. That’s what liberals do when they have no defense and try to minimize the reprehensible behavior of radical leftists. You’re saying that A) conservatives don’t wear masks, and B) leftists burn down buildings and set cars on fire and shoot at police and loot stores and throw bricks. Thus, according to you, they’re both equally wrong.
IOW, when I am walking down the street, I’d much rather pass by a maskless person than someone setting a house on fire.
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Yet the media and activists have people believing that police are gunning people down every day. Let's see how much better their 'public safety forces' and 'violence interrupters' do. The thing is...the people who will die are regular civilians...at the hands of criminals. No one 'says their name.' They are just a number: "15 killed this weekend..."
