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Now, I am not anti-cop. I have/had my gripes with cops and I do think there needs to be some reform. The vast majority of the time my experiences with cops have been good and cordial. Only 2 times did I have truly terrible experience with cops whom were just looking to abuse their power. Overall, I do think police are needed and I give police men and women a ton of credit, I know its not an easy job.
My thing is this: I find many conservatives super "BACK THE BLUE!" but what happens if they have their marching orders and they don't care about you? For instance, there's been a few cases of people not wearing their mask, getting arrested. There was a recent case in Hollywood where this one driver who tried escaping the BLM mob and instead of the mob getting in any trouble, the cops arrested the driver who was trying to flee the mob. You have police officers who will enforce closing down small businesses who defy orders from the state and/or city. Yet, they'll stand by and lot the ANTIFA BLM mob run amok.
Or this lady in Ohio who didn't wear a mask at a football game:
I know this isn't always the case, I am sure there's plenty of cops who will do what is right, what they deem is moral and not what the law tells them is right. In fact, there was a cop who was arrested for posting a video on Youtube about how he's not going to enforce shutting down small business.
The point is, will you conservatives whom are super "BACK THE BLUE!", how would you feel if cops start coming after you for difference of thought? For not wanting to shut down your business? Not wearing mask? Not social distancing? How can you support these cops whom are "just doing their job"?
Its not to say to start rallying against cops but again, the point remains. How can you support the blue who doesn't support you? But only will support the state, obey the $$$. Not all but you get the point.
I'm aware cops are being thrown under the bus and I'm aware of the agenda of it all. I get it. Don't mistake me but I think its important for conservatives to understand that the excuse of "just doing my job" shouldn't be accepted.
How many of us here have even had any interactions with cops? I’m assuming that since we obey the laws, very little. My only interaction was 22 years when I made an illegal U-turn. (I remember the date because it was the month my grandmother died, and I was distracted.)
I have, many times, and not ONCE did they act in an improper way.
Now, I am not anti-cop. I have/had my gripes with cops and I do think there needs to be some reform. The vast majority of the time my experiences with cops have been good and cordial. Only 2 times did I have truly terrible experience with cops whom were just looking to abuse their power. Overall, I do think police are needed and I give police men and women a ton of credit, I know its not an easy job.
My thing is this: I find many conservatives super "BACK THE BLUE!" but what happens if they have their marching orders and they don't care about you? For instance, there's been a few cases of people not wearing their mask, getting arrested. There was a recent case in Hollywood where this one driver who tried escaping the BLM mob and instead of the mob getting in any trouble, the cops arrested the driver who was trying to flee the mob. You have police officers who will enforce closing down small businesses who defy orders from the state and/or city. Yet, they'll stand by and lot the ANTIFA BLM mob run amok.
Or this lady in Ohio who didn't wear a mask at a football game:
I know this isn't always the case, I am sure there's plenty of cops who will do what is right, what they deem is moral and not what the law tells them is right. In fact, there was a cop who was arrested for posting a video on Youtube about how he's not going to enforce shutting down small business.
The point is, will you conservatives whom are super "BACK THE BLUE!", how would you feel if cops start coming after you for difference of thought? For not wanting to shut down your business? Not wearing mask? Not social distancing? How can you support these cops whom are "just doing their job"?
Its not to say to start rallying against cops but again, the point remains. How can you support the blue who doesn't support you? But only will support the state, obey the $$$. Not all but you get the point.
I'm aware cops are being thrown under the bus and I'm aware of the agenda of it all. I get it. Don't mistake me but I think its important for conservatives to understand that the excuse of "just doing my job" shouldn't be accepted.
But you cant have it both ways. Do you want officers to be as they say "judge, jury and executioner", to make personal decisions and follow laws and policy only when they agree with it or do you want officers to consistently follow the law and policy set by their superiors?
I have, many times, and not ONCE did they act in an improper way.
I have also had many, many interactions. I would say that 98% of the cops are straight shooters, but the ones that are not tend to cluster into jurisdictions with bad political management. If there is a bad one in a good crowd, they soon get rid of him, so the bad crowds tend to accumulate them. That is why I said that if the system is bad (Little Mogadishu, for example): move.
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But you cant have it both ways. Do you want officers to be as they say "judge, jury and executioner", to make personal decisions and follow laws and policy only when they agree with it or do you want officers to consistently follow the law and policy set by their superiors?
Irrelevant. You are contemplating the mirror image of the question. Those who follow proper policy and procedure are (usually) not the problem. The problem is jurisdictions where the establishment tolerates those who don't follow "the law and policy set by their superiors." (St. Louis is an example, where the DA is not following the law.) As I have pointed out, when the establishment tolerates lawbreakers among themselves, the only answer is to leave. Let the dead bury the dead.
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