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This is incorrect and slanted. Other countries have controlled its spread much more successfully. We rank near the bottom with Brazil, Peru, India, etc.
Using what measures? We will not go in to lock down, it's not realistic. Only thing that will do is result in civil war. We also can't restrict travel between states, again that is not realistic what can be done in US.
He is correct, there is no way to control Covid. We just need to let it run out.
The Spanish Flu lasted almost 2 years in 1918 and then disappeared. I had never heard of this disease until COVID came out. It was so long ago, so maybe every 100 years, something plaques our planet.
However, I believe: China lab worker was tinkering around in a lab and exposed a worker/or himself, who then got on a plane and the rest is history. .....
I'm a senior, and I have been saying for six months now that those at high risk should do what they can to protect themselves, and let others do the same IF they decide to do so for themselves, but not to shut down or restrict the country in any way (except for hot spots where hospitals are over capacity or close to being so).
People die from all kinds of things, and in large numbers, and that is sad, but THAT IS LIFE. I have decided not to live my life in fear (although I will take reasonable precautions and follow the law, just like I do about everything, from looking both ways when I cross the street to driving safely to not allowing myself to become obese), but I believe in allowing others to do what they want, also, as long as they don't intentionally harm anyone else or try to restrict my rights as allowed by the first ten amendments of the Constitution.
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He is correct, there is no way to control Covid. We just need to let it run out.
That's one approach, but will cause more deaths and illness. Seems to Trumps plan. What we should be doing is this:
"The critically important thing is to actually control the spread of the virus. As long as people fear that they will bump into contagious people who do not know they have the disease, economic activity is going to be depressed. Testing, tracing, masks, medical equipment—anything you can do to reduce the rate of spread of the infection—are the keys to improving the economy." U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee - September 22, 2020 - Austan D. Goolsbee. https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_c...-9-22-2020.pdf
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“We’re not going to control the pandemic,” Meadows said during an interview on CNN. “We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”
More than 224,000 people have died from the virus in the U.S.
The country reported more than 83,000 cases two days in a row on Friday and Saturday as health experts warn of a difficult winter ahead.
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Meadow’s comments point to the Trump administration’s focus on a potential vaccine or therapeutic to manage Covid-19, rather than implementing national measures to help mitigate the spread of infections.
More than 224,000 people have died since the start of the pandemic and health officials urge that protocols like mask wearing could save nearly 130,000 lives.
Meadows also defended President Donald Trump’s large campaign rallies during the pandemic, where attendees are not required to wear masks to reduce the spread of the virus: “We live in a free society,” he commented.
Trump has repeatedly downplayed the seriousness of the virus, recently insisting that the country is “rounding the corner” and the virus is “going away,” even as cases surge in most states.
"We live in a free country," but we still post speed limits on our highways in order to save lives. I don't like either speed limits or masks, but if by wearing a mask I help to save so much as one other person's life then I'll wear a mask.
For those who are indifferent to the cost in lives, the cost in dollars is still considerable. The median cost of a coronavirus hospitalization is $14,366. It is estimated that the total costs to the US healthcare system from inpatient hospitalizations due to COVID-19 will range from $9.6B to $16.9B in 2020.
The costs both in terms of dollars and lives for the absence of any national plan to address the epidemic is steep indeed. And right wingers call liberals "big spenders!" Right.
"We live in a free country," but we still post speed limits on our highways in order to save lives. I don't like either speed limits or masks, but if by wearing a mask I help to save so much as one other person's life then I'll wear a mask.
For those who are indifferent to the cost in lives, the cost in dollars is still considerable. The median cost of a coronavirus hospitalization is $14,366. It is estimated that the total costs to the US healthcare system from inpatient hospitalizations due to COVID-19 will range from $9.6B to $16.9B in 2020.
The costs both in terms of dollars and lives for the absence of any national plan to address the epidemic is steep indeed. And right wingers call liberals "big spenders!" Right.
Why is that people do not understand that driving is a privilege ?
Sweden is currently #17 on the worldometers death per million lists. They keep moving down. The US is #10 and we keep moving up in spite of our masks and restrictions.
So Sweden went from 16th worst to 17th worse. Out of 215 countries Sweden has one of the worst death rates. Not an example for any country to follow. They went herd immunity from the start, discouraging wearing masks even for DR's in hospitals. The wonderful result was that in just a few weeks 1000 died in nursing homes.
Herd immunity without a vaccine is a deadly approach.
It's obvious by now that a large faction of the American populace actually believes that a virus can be ignored while they, shop, eat, go to a pro sports game, go to movies, etc, further, they believe the President, a guy who has little intellectual capacity, over the scientific findings. That is the big problem, not the virus itself, no, it's the thought that we can't be inconvenienced, can't be bothered, can't be unemployed, can't be stressed, or, God forbid, that we shouldn't be "told what to do" by anyone--The American notion of freedom--run amok..
We've become so insulated in our bubbles of personal interest that the lives of others are not considered real, no, they are just numbers now, not real living breathing people. The young prance around in oblivious ignorance, despite the fact that COVID has killed many young people. The President has survived COVID, a man who owns gambling casinos, making a bad bet, and worse, his base supporting that bit of insanity. I don't fear Trump, but I do fear the thoughtlessness of those who worship him and his stupidity. The GOP will now and forever be enamored of the extremists in their midst, and that's a far worse threat than the present chaos of Trump.
There is no controlling it, we can only manage it. We can try to avoid catching it by limiting our exposure and practicing clean habits but even then it can infect you. I live in Mass. and we have pretty much been locked down since the start, we all wear masks, social distance and wait in line to enter stores yet people are still catching it.
Meadows is just speaking the truth.
Biden and his fellows think they could have handled it all differently but what would they have done?
It is impossible to shut down Americans the way people have been shut down in European countries.
We need to protect the elderly and people that are more susceptible to illness due to underlying issues and we can all practice common sense to avoid the virus.
Politicians will not keep us safe be they Reps or Dems.
And yet we're doing that poorly as well. Trump has largely ignored it other than to proclaim it's the flu and refuse to set an example by wearing a mask and demonstrating social distancing. When he eventually caught it he was airlifted to Walter Reed and received gold-standard care at taxpayer expense. And he still could not resist an ego stoking drive endangering the very people who put their lives in the line for him.
He's an ass. An ass without a plan. An ass who doesn't even care about a plan.
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At this point, Mark Meadows is doing his best to bake in the lean Biden voters for Biden.
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