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It was a cornerstone of antebellum culture that black people were inferior and that slavery subordination to the superior race was their natural and normal condition. I think that qualifies as "bad". Do you disagree?
I would also add this. Before the 1970s, the most prosperous Blacks lived outside of the South (ghettos were everywhere in America, including the South). The reason so many prosperous Blacks live in the South, are these reasons: Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, northern Virginia, All all this is relatively recent (late 1970s-now). Blacks were fleeing the South between the 1900s and 1960s. Blacks started moving to the South again during the 1970s and after and only to certain cities, such as the ones I mentioned. Many Blacks started moving to Texas again during the 70s and 80s, after decades of leaving Texas.
PS just in case you are missing it --- the Statues? What do they represent? Free Speech? If not, how?
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Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy
I would argue that we are going beyond constitutional rights in the case of taxpayer funded monuments that grace public spaces, but hey, at least we know where you stand. So you support the preservation of these traitorous confederate statues and monuments (many of which were intended to promote and justify Jim Crow laws in the south I might add).
Well sir, I respectfully disagree.
You just disagreed with Free Speech --- you know that right? And unequal justice. Tax payers funds the government do they not? --- And I respectfully disagree with you. Free Speech needs to stay and everyone with the right to it as they are paying to have it.
Motivation for succession --- they did not want to be made slave to a government dictating to them ...
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
What an interesting turn of phrase. Am I to take it that "being made slave" is kind of bad?
You should know --- the Government is our master today. And they tell you that 'you are a good citizen'.
PS: you know what citizen is code word for right?
You just disagreed with Free Speech --- you know that right? And unequal justice. Tax payers funds the government do they not? --- And I respectfully disagree with you. Free Speech needs to stay and everyone with the right to it as they are paying to have it.
So to apply your own logic, I take it that you are equally in support of the graffiti that was applied to the Robert E. Lee statue during the George Floyd protests? They were merely exercising free speech, correct?
So to apply your own logic, I take it that you are equally in support of the graffiti that was applied to the Robert E. Lee statue during the George Floyd protests? They were merely exercising free speech, correct?
You just disagreed with Free Speech --- you know that right? And unequal justice. Tax payers funds the government do they not? --- And I respectfully disagree with you. Free Speech needs to stay and everyone with the right to it as they are paying to have it.
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Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy
So to apply your own logic, I take it that you are equally in support of the graffiti that was applied to the Robert E. Lee statue during the George Floyd protests? They were merely exercising free speech, correct?
Yep, you can leave it --- as we grow we learn, they should look back as to those actions, when they learn different.
It was a cornerstone of antebellum culture that black people were inferior and that slavery subordination to the superior race was their natural and normal condition. I think that qualifies as "bad". Do you disagree?
No.
Most confederate soldiers never saw a slave in their life.
Southern culture was more than black slavery, it was about hierarchy and stability, something the industrial north could not offer.
The foods, architecture, etc. were all unique to the region. They were fighting for a way of life.
Blacks are prospering in Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, and Durham. They are also prospering in Northern Virginia. These are places that let go of their antebellum ways. Mississippi hasn't let go. Many parts of Alabama haven't let go. Arkansas hasn't. Antebellum culture was not good for Blacks, or the South. Prove me wrong. And come up with some tangibles as to why you think antebellum culture is a good thing. I also notice you did not bother to refute anything I had to say.
Where are these prosperous cities outside of the south?
What about Chicago, NYC, Milwaukee, Oakland, LA, Detroit, Ferguson, or Clevland?
Blacks their have fatherless households, crime, and drugs.
Southern cities are not urban cores like DC or Manhattan with people wondering the streets, they are sprawling suburbs and networks of small towns.
Blacks have their own communities separate from the whites, they have southern churches, family gatherings, and stronger community ties.
Look at south Carolina, blacks there are more sophisticated than their counterparts in Baltimore.
Why is this, tell me?
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