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Old 11-06-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by metalmancpa View Post
Mysterious votes? It's called counting the record number of mail-in ballots that everyone knew would be very heavy democratic. And Trump wanted it that way. He's been barking about how bad it is since the summer, so a majority of his followers voted in person.
There are alot of reasons to vote by mail in besides being a Biden supporter...like COVID, elderly, out of town, don't want to miss work...get real!

 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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This has been the trump narrative all along, the only way he can lose is if there is cheating. He did not even win the popular vote in 2016, he just won by a fluke. His overwhelming popularity only exists in his mind. Many people are sick of him and voted accordingly. Which is perfectly legal, and exactly what voting is for. For once in his life he needs to show some dignity and stop his pointless tantrum.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:12 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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With no evidence. The DNC leaks have no proof of Russian hacking. the most plausible explanation is just a leak. No surprise given a true believer would not be happy to see what the contents were thereof. Russian troll farms is about it, and just about every country in the world has a crack at our social media. We have politicians in other countries publically supporting one side or the other. And what is rather hilarious about it is who ever it was merely pulled the shower curtain on the DNC. Someone showing what the DNC was doing is "hacking".
You don't think Flynn and Manafort's (and others) connections to Russian surrogates represents evidence that perhaps the ties between Russian interests and the Trump campaign should be looked at?

The entire US intelligence community agrees that Russians were trying to influence the election. In that context the connections between Russia and Flynn/Manafort/Papadopolos/whomever else are certainly cause for concern.

Again, Congress felt it was worth looking at. Your disagreement is noted.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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If Trump had issue, he should have just gone through the legal process without announcing it for the world. Plus it looks bad that he set this up back in the summer saying fraud existed before there was even an election. And he voted by mail in the FL primary.

To globally stand there and basically tear down a 240 year-old voting system bashing the democracy for which he currently leads was a pathetic thing to do. That speech never should have happened. NEVER. If fraud is uncovered and the courts agree, then it's true. Right now, it isn't. Way too many people just hang on whatever Trump says or does as the ultimate truth.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Trump has purposely set this drama up over the last 10 months in anticipation of this very moment. His narcisism tells him there is no way he would lose if everything was fair and square. He has singlehandedly done what the country's enemies have tried to do for years in sowing doubt of our democratic process. That is NOT "MAGA".
You people truly live in opposite land. It was the Democrats in the Trump Russia collusion hoax which did more to destroy the American people's faith in our election process then our enemies like the Russian Chinese and Iranians could ever hope to do on their own.

It's Democrats rewriting election laws on the Fly in violation of the US Constitution which are undermining our election process. The state legislators write our laws it's not up to State Court or governor to say "we suddenly do not need to verify signatures and we don't need to see an actual dated postage stamp on a mail-in ballot." It is Democrats who are undermining our election process
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:14 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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If Trump had issue, he should have just gone through the legal process.

To globally stand there and basically tear down a 240 year-old voting system bashing the democracy for which he currently leads was a pathetic thing to do. That speech never should have happened. NEVER. If fraud is uncovered and the courts agree, then it's true. Right now, it isn't. Way too many people just hang on whatever Trump says or does as the ultimate truth.
That speech was shameful and every American should have an issue with it.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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There is zero — zero — evidence of fraud or corruption. Smart move to stop promoting this Trumpian lie and realize that what Trump sees as fraud is just a losing election. Nothing nefarious. You win some and you lose some. Trump has probably lost. Some loyalists appear to recognize this but unfortunately for the USA the POTUS will never concede and will continue to fight we the people in his despicable and disgusting usual way.



The smart thing to do was to not claim Russia rigged the elections if you wanted trust the result this time. Can't have it both ways.








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWcWtHYZtz0








What steps were taken this time to stop Russia from "all 50 states" . The threat exists "today" in 2016. What changed? Trump sanctioned Russia 46 times. Maybe they like Biden, who accepted bribes, better.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:16 AM
 
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This election confirms that Trump has destroyed the political discourse and integrity with long lasting impacts. A demagogue like him should never ever be elected to the highest office for the sake of this country.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The obvious widespread fraud in this election perpetrated by the democrats was blindly executed in their zeal to remove Trump from office.

Unfortunately, democrats never think ahead and consider the consequences of their actions. They are like poor chess players- only reacting to the immediate move.

If the fraud is allowed to stand, it is the end of the republic; fair elections is the cornerstone of our system and without them, we are ruled by oligarchs.

In subsequent elections, each party will now prepare millions of fake votes and deploy them in areas where needed to "win" the election. The number of fake votes will probably exceed the number of real votes, as each party will be trying to guess the number they need to win. We may have a situation in which there are 4-5X as many votes cast as there are living citizens in the US.

I know the dems hate Trump. But a coup in this fashion destroys the election process going forward. Even rational dems (if there are any left) should support stopping this fraud and encourage the legislatures in those states to gain control of the election. If this situation is not remedied, this is the end of the US. Without fair elections, the nation is done, courtesy of criminal democrats.
Lol... Quit hallucinating. There has been no evidence provided of "obvious fraud." "Pandora's box" is hardly counting all the votes like we've always done. Mail-in votes are not "fraud."

If there is real evidence of fraud, put it on the table; else, you're just mad that your guy isn't up.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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There are alot of reasons to vote by mail in besides being a Biden supporter...like COVID, elderly, out of town, don't want to miss work...get real!
Yes there is and it's called an absentee ballot you request an absentee ballot through the mail it's mailed to you you have a witness and certified you sign it and you mail it in before election
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