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Old 12-22-2020, 05:04 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Originally Posted by Speleothem View Post
If you think that the ChiComs wanted Trump over Beijing Biden, you're beyond hope.
Why? Trump's trade war with China resulted in us buying every bit as much Chinese consumer goods, at higher prices (tariffs), as we ever did and required billions and billions of farm subsidies for the American taxpayer to make up for the lost ag markets. Meanwhile there were plenty of cheap soybeans in Brazil for them to buy. Trump is a pitiful negotiator. We got took to the cleaners. Why would China want to mess with results like that?

I hope Joe takes it to 'em.

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Old 12-22-2020, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why? Trump's trade war with China resulted in us buying every bit as much Chinese consumer goods, at higher prices (tariffs), as we ever did and required billions and billions of farm subsidies for the American taxpayer to make up for the lost ag markets. Meanwhile there were plenty of cheap soybeans in Brazil for them to buy. Trump is a pitiful negotiator. We got took to the cleaners. Why would China want to mess with results like that?

I hope Joe takes it to 'em.
The good news is that the trade deficit with China went down, the bad news is that people bought from other sources and the trade deficit was record setting. I'm not against his actions with China but there were adverse effects like increased subsidies for farmers.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 07:20 AM
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The good news is that the trade deficit with China went down, the bad news is that people bought from other sources and the trade deficit was record setting. I'm not against his actions with China but there were adverse effects like increased subsidies for farmers.
I'm for bringing down the hammer on China, and I don't know one dem who isn't (even the far lefties hate them for their mistreatment of the Uighurs if nothing else). But in typical Trumpian fashion, he talked tough, often and loudly but didn't deliver diddly.

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Old 12-22-2020, 07:26 AM
 
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Why? Trump's trade war with China resulted in us buying every bit as much Chinese consumer goods, at higher prices (tariffs), as we ever did and required billions and billions of farm subsidies for the American taxpayer to make up for the lost ag markets. Meanwhile there were plenty of cheap soybeans in Brazil for them to buy. Trump is a pitiful negotiator. We got took to the cleaners. Why would China want to mess with results like that?

I hope Joe takes it to 'em.
What do Trumplicans see that's different?

China is now buying their soybeans from Russia and Brazil, and our soybean farmers are depending on government handouts.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 07:46 AM
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What do Trumplicans see that's different?

China is now buying their soybeans from Russia and Brazil, and our soybean farmers are depending on government handouts.
Well, it's not socialism when they do it. I mean farmers gotta get the money for that $65,000 dually (that is a tax right off as a farm implement) somwheres.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Not to mention the dozens of lawsuits with no merit whatsoever.

One about the SCOTUS overturning the election, was brought by nearly twenty Republican states, and supported by over a hundred Republican legislators. Unsurprisingly, SCOTUS refused to get involved in their attempt to overthrow the government.

With Giuliani, Flynn, Powell, Stone, Bannon, ... as advisors, who knows what attempts at election fraud are next.
Does it bother you at all that state election boards, governors and state court judges can change the election process on the fly, in violation of the US Constitution, their own state constitution and their own state election laws, and even the SCOTUS refuses to get involved?

We will never have faith in our federal or state elections if our election laws can be violated on the fly?
 
Old 12-22-2020, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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All you deniers of the deceit KNOW deep down in the pits of your subverted souls that this election is a LIE.

May that ROT you all for eternity in HELL
 
Old 12-22-2020, 08:07 AM
 
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May that ROT you all for eternity in HELL

good morning sunshine.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Integrity? What part about coving windows and running off poll watchers has your so called integrity? The election Is for we the people and if we the people want to watch our votes being counted then we should be allowed to and not have cheaters cover windows and not allow inspection of machines...
I haven't seen any actual proof that these rumors are true. I've asked many times for links. Do you have legitimate sources for this?
 
Old 12-22-2020, 08:16 AM
 
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"Evangelical Christianity" rearing its ugly head again. Talk about reality and deniers and subverted souls oh my!

The hocus pocus of the 700 Club made some folks on this thread angry this morning, it seems. Tsk tsk tsk. I guess Pat Robertson is setting up a conflict for loyalists, as he weighed his future earnings, and decided that The Donald and his rantings and bogus claims of election fraud are even a cross too great to bear for the religious crowd of con-men and huckster allies.

Good riddance to "church" in government as they, a little too late, admit there was no election fraud and confess that the current POTUS lives in an alternate reality.

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