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Old 01-22-2021, 07:00 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Not true.

The covid death count will reach 500Knext month, under Biden, are you going to blame Trump for that too?

The only thing that could've saved Trump was being more likeable, not arguing and insulting everyone.
And that's not true either. America was circling the drain and now is again. We are at war with domestic enemies, exemplified by CNN, their guests and commentators, and most of the Democrat party. You don't fight that element with a measurable chance of success with Mr. Rodgers. Most average Americans understand that and love Trump's style. The scum who just got away with nullifying our voting rights haven't been insulted yet near enough. If they had, they wouldn't have dared what they did.

It's a new age of the kind human history is loaded with, but that we have never had to face. All of our most essential freedoms are under attack and we're gonna lose them absent a courageous leader like President Trump. Nice guys like Mike Pence are not going to get the job done. It has been proven time and time again over decades that playing nice with these miscreants only makes them demand and take more and more. It is surrender in slow motion.

You saw the video I posted earlier....showing how much people love Trump insulting our enemies. We need more of it - not less. Remember, Trump DID win. The election was criminally stolen by domestic enemies who know they will never have the people's will.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Carpinteria
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Trump never wanted or expected to win in the 2016 election. Marketing his name was his game, not leadership of U.S. citizens. His blatant narcissistic mental illness just finally turned off the cross over votes he got in '16. Folks realized he wasn't a leader. Voter fraud is one of his many, many lies. The GOP members that perpetuate it are delusional and also losing credibility as leaders. Majority of all voters are tired of the lies and clearly heard the courts rejection of the law suits. Bottom line. He could only have been re-elected if he'd done a better job. His approval rating tanked him. He is now just a stain in the history of democracy. Every citizen in the U.S. is a victim of his failure to lead the county. Good riddance and God bless our democracy and the voters that saved us from 4 more years.
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Old 01-22-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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Trump never wanted or expected to win in the 2016 election. Marketing his name was his game, not leadership of U.S. citizens. His blatant narcissistic mental illness just finally turned off the cross over votes he got in '16. Folks realized he wasn't a leader.
FWIW- I think winning the electoral college has really clouded people's memory of 2016. He had 46% of the vote then and ended up at 46% in 2020. He actually gained millions of voters but did not gain percentage wise. Since 2000 Rs have gone 47%, 50%, 45%, 47%, 46, and 46%. If you take away '08 when any Republican was going to be doomed because both the Iraq war and the economy had imploded, Trump was actually the low end of what an R earns running for national office.

But I will give him credit for driving out every possible Trump voter that exists. It took the second highest vote total in US history for him to lose by only 5 points.
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Old 01-22-2021, 01:42 PM
 
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Trump never wanted or expected to win in the 2016 election.
Roger Ailes said he begged Trump to run for President many times, and Trump refused, because Trump said he'd only run if he could win.
Trump only ran for President because he knew he could beat Hillary.
He knew the backlash against Obama's administration was off the charts by 2016.
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Old 01-22-2021, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Roger Ailes said he begged Trump to run for President many times, and Trump refused, because Trump said he'd only run if he could win.
Trump only ran for President because he knew he could beat Hillary.
He knew the backlash against Obama's administration was off the charts by 2016.

Trump never expected to win. Over the years he hinted at running just to see the public's reaction. Full of himself. Like he always does, throw stuff out there and see what sticks with the public. His main concern is the Trump organization name. Well now look whats happened to them.
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Old 01-22-2021, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Roger Ailes said he begged Trump to run for President many times, and Trump refused, because Trump said he'd only run if he could win.
Trump only ran for President because he knew he could beat Hillary.
He knew the backlash against Obama's administration was off the charts by 2016.

Trump won by coordinating with Russian agents though Paul Manafort timing releases of negative attack ads referring to what was being released on Wikileaks.

He was unable to make any of his attacks work on Biden the more he tried the more Trump lost support of the middle and moderate Democrats Trump needed to win. MAGAs they think they can win without Democrat voters in swing states they were wrong. Trump decided he won anyway and showed the world how insane he really was.
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Old 01-23-2021, 09:35 AM
 
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Critiquing performance does not = hate.

If you really believe it does, then you may be as thin skinned as your messiah.
Lets get something straight here. trump is not a messiah to any of us just because we feel he was a good president.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:01 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That is media spin and a lie. Most people prefer him to be exactly how he is and what he is. That is, after all, why he was so effective.

AND why he LOST.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2h...ature=youtu.be
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Bottom line: Trump wasn't going to change to win an election.

That's why people love him, and that's why people hate him.

Billions upon billions of dollars was spent and every effort the Democrats, DC establishment, Elite Tech, and Elite Billionaire class could muster, they did.

I don't think there was ANYTHING Trump could have done to win. Massive unsolicited mail in voting was always going to happen. Massive changes to voting laws was always going to happen. Massive tech censorship was always going to happen.

Trump penetrated the club the first time and took them by surprise. They had 4 years to make sure it didn't happen again, and they succeeded.
As always, it's everyone's fault but Trump's according to his flock.

When the candidate loses - take a look at the candidate and figure out why he lost.

Of course, he could have taken steps to win. He was advised so many times. But Donald knows more than the Generals do and the Doctor's and everyone.

So he lost.
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Old 01-23-2021, 09:42 PM
 
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Lets get something straight here. trump is not a messiah to any of us just because we feel he was a good president.
If you didn’t look at him as a messiah, you wouldn’t be sensitive to my post that you replied to (whoidh you obviously are).

If you didn’t look upon him in a messianic sense you wouldn’t have been sensitive, wouldn’t have cared one whit about my post, and would have ignored it .
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Old 01-23-2021, 09:52 PM
 
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Trump never wanted or expected to win in the 2016 election. Marketing his name was his game, not leadership of U.S. citizens. His blatant narcissistic mental illness just finally turned off the cross over votes he got in '16. Folks realized he wasn't a leader. Voter fraud is one of his many, many lies. The GOP members that perpetuate it are delusional and also losing credibility as leaders. Majority of all voters are tired of the lies and clearly heard the courts rejection of the law suits. Bottom line. He could only have been re-elected if he'd done a better job. His approval rating tanked him. He is now just a stain in the history of democracy. Every citizen in the U.S. is a victim of his failure to lead the county. Good riddance and God bless our democracy and the voters that saved us from 4 more years.
Yep.

I’ve been posting since before the 2016 election that there were three reasons that rose above the others re why he was running:

(In no particular order of importance0

1. To build his brand
2. To, to some degree, get under Obama’s skin/P him off a bit. Why? For making fun of him at the 2011 WHCD.
3. To come as close as possible and then not win so that he could whine that ‘the system is rigged’ until taking his last breath.

There is a picture of him in his situation room/control room on election night in 2016 taken as he realized he was going to win, and he had a ‘deer in headlights’ look on his face.
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