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Part of Trump's problem is that he found a good way to drum up his base... and that was to attack Democrats. Not just Democratic politicians, but Democratic voters. He took a gamble. He felt that if he could pull his own "Deplorables" gambit but not rile up independents and the left that he'd have the votes he needed.
That didn't really seem to pan out.
That was one of the differences between the Trump and Biden campaigns. Biden didn't go after Republican politicians (except Trump) or Republican voters. He didn't treat them as sub-human. Biden was laser-focused on Trump and Trump alone. Whereas Trump lashed out at anything with a (D) attached to the end of their name.
I think that didn't play out. And the proof is in the pudding.
Biden won by 7M votes.
Democrats in the House won nationally by about 4M votes.
That's about 3M Americans that abandoned Trump. I'm sure they had various reasons. However, Trump drove up turn-out of the left, center and right. Between the 3M that abandoned Trump and some of the 81M that voted for Biden - that was likely in part to Trump demonizing voters. The same way Clinton demonized Trump supporters.
Astute post.
From his beginnings, Trump has a basic strategy to everything he has ever done.
He first develops a group of loyalists. They can be anything from gangsters to lawyers as long as they are useful for him in some way.
Once he has his group he goes looking for some other group to go after or who already oppose him..
As soon as the two groups collide, chaos ensues, and Trump finds his advantages in the chaos.
If no advantage appears, he ups the chaos until it does.
Then he moves faster that the others can keep up with, gets what he wants, and then moves on, never stopping nor lingering.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But it's the only strategy Trump ever perfected, so he sticks with it, win or lose. Like a casino owner, winning and losing both become a matter of odds and perseverance for Trump.
If he just keeps moving on quickly, the wins and the losses even out and he wins a little more than he loses.
His only trouble was governance in a democracy doesn't work like business in a democracy.
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Part of Trump's problem is that he found a good way to drum up his base... and that was to attack Democrats. Not just Democratic politicians, but Democratic voters. He took a gamble. He felt that if he could pull his own "Deplorables" gambit but not rile up independents and the left that he'd have the votes he needed.
That didn't really seem to pan out.
That was one of the differences between the Trump and Biden campaigns. Biden didn't go after Republican politicians (except Trump) or Republican voters. He didn't treat them as sub-human. Biden was laser-focused on Trump and Trump alone. Whereas Trump lashed out at anything with a (D) attached to the end of their name.
I think that didn't play out. And the proof is in the pudding.
Biden won by 7M votes.
Democrats in the House won nationally by about 4M votes.
That's about 3M Americans that abandoned Trump. I'm sure they had various reasons. However, Trump drove up turn-out of the left, center and right. Between the 3M that abandoned Trump and some of the 81M that voted for Biden - that was likely in part to Trump demonizing voters. The same way Clinton demonized Trump supporters.
Actually, Trump got 2 million more votes than House Republicans.
Interestingly enough, House Republicans got 400,000 more votes than him in 2016.
I often think about how easy it would have been for him to get relected.
1. Stop tweeting nonsense => Win
2. Take covid seriously => Win
3. Respect John McCain => Win Arizona.
4. Do all of the above => Landslide
But on the other hand, I am happy that he messed up, because that means we don't need to have 4 more years of Trump.
Actually, Trump got 2 million more votes than House Republicans.
Interestingly enough, House Republicans got 400,000 more votes than him in 2016.
Trump also got more votes among every minority group except Japanese Americans, against Biden than he did against Hillary. The only group he got more votes vs. Biden was White men
That's pretty much the case. If I was a Democrat I would be more worried about thinking they have the American Vote locked considering they barely beat someone as bad as Trump. The old race card really didn't work on the population as well as they thought though.
That's pretty much the case. If I was a Democrat I would be more worried about thinking they have the American Vote locked considering they barely beat someone as bad as Trump. The old race card really didn't work on the population as well as they thought though.
If I was a Republican I would be worrying about the thousands who have left the GQP. The show at the Capitol and Marjorie Taylor Greene were not the greatest recruitment tools.
I often think about how easy it would have been for him to get relected.
1. Stop tweeting nonsense => Win
2. Take covid seriously => Win
3. Respect John McCain => Win Arizona.
4. Do all of the above => Landslide
But on the other hand, I am happy that he messed up, because that means we don't need to have 4 more years of Trump.
You nailed it.
But Trump is who he is, so this list becomes one of 'Ifs'.
If Trump had taken Covid seriously, he would have stopped tweeting nonsense.
If he stopped tweeting nonsense, he would have respected John McCain.
If he had respected John McCain and won Arizona, he may have lost respect from his base and lost in some other state.
But if he could have kept his base and did all of the above, it could have been a win. It wouldn't have been a landslide, because he wasn't popular enough for one. But his win would have been as solid as Biden's was.
Realistically, there was no way Trump could win once he screwed up the response to Covid. He has always done things only one way all his life, and everything he did as President followed his lifelong pattern.
He's as leopard who can't change his spots.
When something brand new showed up, that no one knew anything about, Trump couldn't do a brand-new take on a brand-new problem. Everything he did from January to March doomed him as the year progressed.
By taking Covid seriously from the very beginning and not f'ing up the response. That was all he had to do to get a second term and he blew it.
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