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Old 05-06-2008, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Here
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Yeah, sure, just a "right wing populist meme"
The plan is we're going to suck the rest of the world oil reserves dry and then tap into our own.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Oh noes!! Not the ignore button! We better put Greatday on suicide watch.

You seem to be a little high strung Movin'
Thanks -

What he does not realize - nor would he know, is we have attended over 200 funerals for service members killed in action. We work with their families.

My son has come back wounded - twice. So, when he spouts off that I don't understand - clearly, he is not thinking rationally.

Thanks for your support.

Have fun!
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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And why do you get involved in a question that does not pertain to you? Unless you feel the need to stand up for over consumption, in a world that is severely lacking in resources. I'm on the right side of this.
Maybe because this is a DISCUSSION BOARD. And you'll have to excuse me but I have a funny tendency to take serious issue with someone who spouts off Marxist views such as "to each according to his need" while trying to put down those who use the fruits of their labor as they see fit.

And no, you are not on the right side of this, for what you are advocating is control over other people's lives.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Oh come on, how old are you? Old enough to remember the days of one TV and one car and one income? What was so wrong with those days, unless you are too young to remember them or weren't even born yet.
Really? Is that your arguement? That 40 years ago people lived a certain way and that this is how it should be today?
But since you asked, nothing was wrong with those days. And you are certainly free to live in 1970 for as long as you want to.
But how dare you try to say that everyone else must do so as well.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Oh, consumerism to the max. I trust all your bills are paid for and that you are not living on credit to finance your fancy lifestyle? Don't worry, I do not expect an honest answer here. One must keep up appearances and a lifestyle commensurate with the Joneses.
OK, I know this is my third post in a row, but I just have to ask.
Why the hell are you so concerned about how other people live their lives? My God, it's like you are obsessed. Get a grip, and don't worry so much about what everyone else is doing with their money. Besides, it's none of your damn business anyway, so take a pill.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:04 PM
 
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OK, I know this is my third post in a row, but I just have to ask.
Why the hell are you so concerned about how other people live their lives? My God, it's like you are obsessed. Get a grip, and don't worry so much about what everyone else is doing with their money. Besides, it's none of your damn business anyway, so take a pill.
What, shall I take the red pill or the blue pill? I think I've already taken the red pill. It's not so much that I'm concerned over how other people live their lives, rather how they live MINE. To go there, I did not ask for this war, yet I am required to pay for it, and it is a war based strictly on oil. Why shouldn't I be resentful of big oil consumers, if it means one more person has to die for a boat or a plane or a Lincoln Town Car? See, here is where I am on the right side of things.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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What, shall I take the red pill or the blue pill? I think I've already taken the red pill. It's not so much that I'm concerned over how other people live their lives, rather how they live MINE. To go there, I did not ask for this war, yet I am required to pay for it, and it is a war based strictly on oil. Why shouldn't I be resentful of big oil consumers, if it means one more person has to die for a boat or a plane or a Lincoln Town Car? See, here is where I am on the right side of things.

Then am I assume that you would approve of drilling for oil in the Bakken Oil Field, or ANWR, or in California, or Florida, so that we wouldn't require so much oil from other countries?

And if the war in Iraq was about oil then how come we aren't shipping tankers upon tankers of that Iraqi oil back here at no cost?
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:19 PM
 
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You have to remember movin'on that Americans have traditionally been completely naive to the outside world. They simply don't know how individual choices affect the greater world. Hell, after September 11th was there rationing or any other call for a greater national movement? No; we were told to shop! Buy, buy, buy. Bigger is better.

It is understandable in some respects. We've really destroyed most communal aspects in society. People live in the burbs, rarely walk or interact with the community in general; parks etc are no longer used as in the past. Instead we have malls. Also, our education system is terrible. It's not surprising that people would be ignorant of the world around them. I would wager that most Americans don't even know the capital of Canada and that is our neighbor!
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:22 PM
 
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Then am I assume that you would approve of drilling for oil in the Bakken Oil Field, or ANWR, or in California, or Florida, so that we wouldn't require so much oil from other countries?
I would approve of cities upgrading their mass transit, of people carpooling, of developing alternate sources of energy, which could have taken place 20 years but has not.

If enough people embraced alternative energy sources and invested in them we could probably get off our oil dependence in some amount of time.

Drilling in protected areas would be my last choice, but if it means saving lives, hey we screwed up and have to pay the price.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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You have to remember movin'on that Americans have traditionally been completely naive to the outside world. They simply don't know how individual choices affect the greater world. Hell, after September 11th was there rationing or any other call for a greater national movement? No; we were told to shop! Buy, buy, buy. Bigger is better.

It is understandable in some respects. We've really destroyed most communal aspects in society. People live in the burbs, rarely walk or interact with the community in general; parks etc are no longer used as in the past. Instead we have malls. Also, our education system is terrible. It's not surprising that people would be ignorant of the world around them. I would wager that most Americans don't even know the capital of Canada and that is our neighbor!

Project much?
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