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Old 02-22-2021, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Politico is DNC propaganda, so that story is highly dubious.

If that's true, good thing Trump shelved it. The Obama/Biden administration had no ventilators, PPE, or surgical masks stockpiled, much less a plan for developing a vaccine in less than a year. The only reason people are getting vaccinated now is because Trump was President instead of the morons from the prior administration/the moron who runs the current administration.
Had COVID - 19 been COVID 16, ^ might have been true.

COVID hit 3 years after Trump’s inauguration.

The playbook is a very high level document and concludes with a recommendation to create pandemic simulations. It is unknown why the Trump Admin did not follow through. Pandemic simulations have not been a priority.

The Obama Admin document stresses the need for immediate unified messaging, funding and invoking the Defense Act.

Messaging was anything but unified. Had 2020 not been an election year, messaging might have been different.
The 18 recorded interviews Trump gave to Bob Woodward demonstrate Trump had been made aware COVID -19 had the potential to be worse than the Spanish Flu in January . Yet, Trump chose to downplay the risks and made analogies with the flu and implied a shot was right around the corner.

Woodward was struck by the stark differences between was Trump was telling him during the recorded interviews and what Trump was telling the public to the point he thought Trump may have embellished what he disclosed in January - March.
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The only thing that can be done now is expedite the vaccines. The horse has been out of the barn for too long. The maskless morons will continue to spread disease, death and economic destruction regardless of who is President.
The non-FDA approved non-widely available vaccines are becoming less effective by the day. You do know there are variants right?

1 million might be dead by the time vaccines can even get close to reaching herd immunity, assuming it's still effective.

And as far as maskless morons, I don't recall Republicans mass gathering partying on election weekend and looting in the name of George Floyd.
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The name calling has worked wonders in converting people over to your "science"
Ain't no one convertible on this forum and you ain't one to talk.
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The non-FDA approved non-widely available vaccines are becoming less effective by the day. You do know there are variants right?

1 million might be dead by the time vaccines can even get even close to reaching herd immunity, assuming it's still effective.

It appears the vaccine may prevent serious illnesses and deaths even when it doesn't prevent contracting the virus. You are aware of that I assume.

And as far as maskless morons, I don't recall Republicans mass gathering partying on election weekend and looting in the name of George Floyd.
Not quite sure how a bunch of liberal dumbasses justify conservative dumbasses.

It appears vaccines even when they don't prevent illness do prevent hospitalizations and deaths.

My use of the term maskless moron applies to the maskless morons of all political ideologies.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You and Biden promised to end COVID deaths. Didn’t happen.
Thanks President Biden!

Wisconsin lists no virus deaths for 1st time since September
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Not quite sure how a bunch of liberal dumbasses justify conservative dumbasses.
Then you aren't quite sure how Biden became president.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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You and Biden promised to end COVID deaths. Didn’t happen.
Nope nobody promised that-- you made it up to support the stories in your head.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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It appears, even when they don't prevent illness do prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
Tell that to the 100K+ people dead since the vaccine came out.

I'm sure the millions of morbidly obese and avid smokers in this country are jumping for joy over this non-FDA approved non-widely available vaccine
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:09 AM
 
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Hey, the numbers are greatly improving, down 28%, unlike with Trump where they were going from bad to worse, so what's not to like? Biden's doing a great job.
Were you living under a rock?

Since Covid struck back in February 2020, numbers got worse than better, 3 times under Trump. They got better in May. Then they became worse again in July. Then better again in September. Then worse again in November. And while Trump was leaving in January, they were getting better, even before Biden became president.

It's called a wave, look it up.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:12 AM
 
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Every death is Biden’s fault under his watch he’s not doing enough. You damn well know if trump was still in you people would still blame trump for those deaths. Can’t have it both ways hypocrites
Right back at ya' - so if Biden is responsible for the most recent 100,000 that means your boy Trump was responsible for the other 400,000 right? But one other consideration - is it easier to stop a freight train going 1 mph or 100 mph? Just wonderin'...
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