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Ah yes the Super deadly variant. That despite its presence, hasn’t stopped cases from going down
Are we supposed to lock down and wait for a vaccine for every single variant?
It's slightly more contagious, and slightly more resistant to the vaccine. That doesn't mean vaccines wont take out the UK variant. To the contrary, it means we need to vaccinate as quickly as possible to ensure the UK strain doesn't become the dominant strain. It's why numbers are not going down in Europe despite warming temperatures. If the variant takes control, our decreasing trend may stop. So it's a race against the clock. The longer COVID bounces around people, the more new strains will develop. It is a big risk to allow COVID to linger because a vaccine resistant strain might pop up. That would be a nightmare.
Most opinions I hear are fairly shortsighted. CA locked down - long before the virus was very common. So - not for nothing - but it was going to take months for them to "catch up" - and eventually, they did.
The policies - strict or not - any state at all - were meant to drag it out. Not stop it. That's all. All you did with any restrictions was change the timeline. CA - by locking down early - changed nearly nothing - as the virus wasn't "out in force" there yet - but later on, when it finally bloomed - their restrictions weren't going to stop it.
Florida had restrictions - stay at home orders, schools closed, and the like - but they did it when the virus was aggressively on the rise - so even thought their restrictions weren't as, well, restrictive, and didn't last as long (maybe) - the overall effect may very well have been better.
In no way - at all - does this prove lockdowns or restrictions don't help. All it proves is that - despite great restrictions in many places here and abroad - the virus would continue to spread at some pace, faster some places than others, until you take the vaccine or get infected. That much seems pretty clear.
Remember - FL didn't "beat" covid - and neither did CA - they just changed the pace. Let it go long enough and see if the "per capita" counts even up. They definitely will - except now for the vaccine.
So don't bash CA - and don't congratulate FL - we're all losers here, that's pretty much all there is to it.
this is hilarious since the whole last year was spend trashing DeSantis as a murderer and propping up Andrew Cuomo as a hero
Who can know what the real data is since much of Florida is tourism. The tourists get Covid and take it back to their own states or countries, and boom, less Covid in FL. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Average Pandemics .........2-3 cycles in ......4-5 years..........followed by vaccination for the rest of our lives................
Just look at the Spanish Flu...................killed millions .........................still with us.....................and people still choose to vaccinate or not.
No need to destroy economies in the process.....................
Yet, some of the leftists on the California forum cling to the notion that our lockdowns saved so many lives. They make excuses saying that the reason we have death rates close to Florida is that we are more "diverse" and crowded and that if we had not locked down, a much larger portion of the state would have died, etc.
I read the article (not the right-wing book report you posted) and it's not exactly as rosy on Florida as you'd like to think. Florida's economy is utterly reliant upon tourism. Florida got hammered last year, and suffered huge budget shortfalls as a result (that will happen when there's no income tax, and you rely on sales tax for the budget. If no one's buying, where do you get revenue?). Florida has no choice but to open up. The entire state depends on tourism for tax revenue. This is a failure of the Federal government for not providing aid to Florida, to allow businesses to act safely right now.
Luckily, Florida did well to vaccinate seniors. Their approach seems to be "seniors are safe, now go nuts". This brings a risk to us all. The UK strain, which is slightly more contagious and slightly (slightly) resistant to the vaccines, is rampant in Florida. Spring breakers are liable to bring it back home. I'm glad Florida is having fun, but they're acting like a virus breeding ground, and other states will suffer the consequences, less so Florida.
As a Florida resident, I encourage you to stay out of Florida now and forever. Thanks in advance.
It was a no brainer that FL should be the next hot spot after NY. Size of the population, size of the elderly population and number of tourists. Didn't take a rocket scientist to understand that.
Seniors.......early on in Jan/Feb locked themselves down.
When DeSantis "unlocked" everything most seniors kept themselves locked down. Ditto lots of businesses did not open fully.
Basically enough of the population ignored DeSantis to result in less of a disaster than if they had listened to the arrogant child who thinks he smarter than the average bear lol.
To his credit he has gotten shots in arms fairly quickly, even though he has created a lot of chaos, stress and confusion in the process.
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