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I inserted that true story as relevant because I chose to intervene, when others appeared not to.
I am capable of rendering assistance up to a certain level. Regardless, I view nothing as futile unless an attempt is made. If I have to lie to potentially save a life, I am all for it. I’ll deal with any consequences later.
Understood but this isn't about you. I highly doubt in reality you, a single individual, would outright ignore the futility of assaulting 4 armed police officers simply because you wanted to prove futility.
Floyd took those drugs he put in his mouth ,a moment when he saw the police coming to his car. His airway was not blocked.
If that was the case then let's examine:
Average time to absorbtion from stomach of a substance averages 30-45 min. Then is starts to have an effect but minor with an estimated time to peak at 1.5 hours (Opioids and uppers just in case)
You theory would only work if the altercation took more than an hour from the time the police arrived to when he was dead. in addition there would be enough pill matter or peices to see on autopsy as check stomach contents when drugs is su
supected is standard protocol.
Again post mortem results are not accurate so you need more than that to say is was OD related. It's the prosecution job to explain so we will see what they do but the science does not back using post mortem levels alone.
By all accounts there was not enough time for what you propose to have actually happened.
Understood but this isn't about you. I highly doubt in reality you, a single individual, would outright ignore the futility of assaulting 4 armed police officers simply because you wanted to prove futility.
I say that he has no business being a cop is simple: He showed extreme lack of judgement continuing to kneel on Floyd for as long as he did.
There are some important rules that police must follow. They are trained to use their gun, but they have to be extremely prudent in their use of that gun. If they are trained to kneel on a suspect, then fine. They need to be prudent with kneeling on suspects. Over 8 minutes was excessive. Continuing to kneel when Floyd became unresponsive was imprudent use of the technique. Not knowing when to stop demonstrates Chauvin's extreme lack of judgement.
I do struggle to put the bulk of the blame on Chauvin for Floyd's death. Floyd would have been better off getting in the damn car. He refused. He would have been better off not resisting arrest. He refused. Subduing him outside the car and waiting: That was Floyd's decision. Chauvin wanted to stick him in the car and take him to jail. Floyd would have done time for counterfeiting and drugs, but he'd still be alive.
So to break it down, here are Floyd's contributions to his own death:
Having COVID-19 and not quarantining at home like he should have. (Floyd also exposed all of the cops and everyone he interacted with. Not cool!)
Despite knowing he has a serious heart condition and almost dying of an overdose previously, he took Fentanyl and other drugs anyways.
Being uncooperative when the police arrived to arrest him. (Just put your other hand on the wheel you idiot!)
Apparently, downing drugs to hide the evidence when the police were approaching.
Refusing to get in the police car, thereby making it extremely unlikely that they could get him emergency medical help for overdosing.
The case could go either way. The jury might very well decide that Chauvin and the other officers were responsible for Floyd's safety after having him in handcuffs. You have to weigh that against all the things that Floyd did to cause his own death. You have to determine whether Floyd would have died entirely from his own actions. You have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin's knee was the thing that killed Floyd. But if the knee is conclusively determined to be a significant contributing factor to Floyd's death, then the jury likely convicts on 3rd degree or manslaughter.
You are very methodical in your analysis but we are not in a classroom dealing with arithmetic where 1 is expected to be 1 and 2 is expected to be 2. Even in real time, in the real world you and I can fight better in our minds from the ringside than Muhamad Ali in the ring.
You know that you will never end up with a cop's knee on your neck in the street. Why? You know you will never pass off a fake twenty dollar bill anywhere. Why? The world out there is a sad place for both George Floyd and cops. It is set up for guys like Floyd to end up dead and for cops like Chauvin getting hung up to dry. The right way to end this is to give our cops like Chauvin some slack and pay some compensation to Floyd's family. Not $27 million.
Sure... You could very well be Jack Reacher for all I know. But again... this isn't about you and we are talking most normal individuals which you are claiming are not normal.
Sure... You could very well be Jack Reacher for all I know. But again... this isn't about you and we are talking most normal individuals which you are claiming are not normal.
Just what is “ normal” ?
However I am capable of doing most of my own stunts.
I thought the supervisor of Derek Chauvin gave a really good testimony yesterday and the defense attorney objected twice to the question that asked the opinion of the sergeant if he felt Derek Chauvin should have not used force once Floyd no longer showed resistence. I think that answer may sway the jury a bit because Derek did not want to release his knee off of Floyd.
So I agree, excessive use of force, but that doesn't prove beyond a reason of doubt that this action is what killed George Floyd. George Floyd could not breathe way before when simply told to sit upright in a police vehicle. If in fact Floyd was experiencing an overdose to the combination of drugs he was on, presents doubt that this is 100% Derek Chauven fault for Floyd's death. Therefore I don't see how he can be found guilty.
He was overcharged and I don't think the charges can be proved.
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