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Old 03-30-2021, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Language changes all the time, especially English, it's very adaptive.

Give it another 50 years it'll likely change again.

 
Old 03-30-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Been that way in some areas for a long time. This predates last year.

Here’s a short blurb, dated 2013, that attributes the shift to the 90’s when some builders purposely renamed the room to avoid association with a specific gender and slave owning.

Guess it took 10-20 years for some to be outraged by the perceived threat.


https://consumerist.com/2013/04/17/r...-owners-suite/
 
Old 03-30-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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It's not the government, it is the real estate business.
Exactly - where is there any evidence that this is a .gov initiative?

 
Old 03-30-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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I am shocked it lasted this long. Master evokes a slave. 10 years ago I was wondering when realtors would quit calling it the Master Bedroom. I am really shocked it took this long to kill the term.

I assumed they would use main bedroom or best bedroom or prime bedroom. Some such neutral word. Owners suite is an idiotic term.

It will always be "master bedroom" to me. I am not changing.
The term Master also skews toward male. And decades ago more and more women were buying homes without the assist of a man.

I've heard it called the owner's suite for well over a decade. Even earlier in some regions, here in America.
Here is an article from a D.C business journal, from 2013, that revealed major homebuilders started referring to the larger bedroom--- that had an attached bath--- as an owner's suite in their architectural plans years prior. Some had even ditched the term back in the 1990s.

In the resale market, at that time, realtors like using the phrase owner's suite because it had a connotation of high end.

There appear to be many solid reasons the lexicon changed. I don't understand why it is a controversy and it certainly isn't a new or recent shift in terminology.

https://www.bizjournals.com/washingt...state-bid.html

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Old 03-30-2021, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Well, the reason why I call it a Citadel and not a suite stems from basic fire safety in that the bedroom door is suppose to be closed when you sleep. My bedroom setup is more like that of a Keep in that it is not only the bedroom.

As far as using classical terms such as Citadel and Keep......well, what do you expect of a woman who believes in castles and dragons and has bunches of cats?.........which is something of a point. When one is talking about the room of dreams and fantasies.......why be plain?
 
Old 03-30-2021, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Will I be condemned asking for Cotton sheets?
You ask for fabric sheets.

If someone touches them just say "get your cotton picking hands off my fabric sheets" since that would be more politically correct.
 
Old 03-30-2021, 09:44 AM
 
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In the process of building a house and all the builder plans we looked at were calling it a "primary" bedroom.

We've had several threads on this.
Company no longer using "Master Bedroom---Master Bath" considered stigma...
 
Old 03-30-2021, 10:02 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The opposite of master is jack.

As in jack of all trades, master of none.
 
Old 03-30-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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It's been owners suite or primary bedroom for at least 6 years, which was the las ttime I bought a house.

Tell you what though, buy the house, hang a huge sign that says "MASTER SUITE" then buy the largest TV you can so you can watch conservative news and feed your aggrieved psyche 24/7.
 
Old 03-30-2021, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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When we were shopping for house plans in 1986, this was already a trend.

Why does this bother y'all? Realtors were noticing that announcing the "master suite" to their black customers wasn't always received well.
Because it is stupid. It can only be offensive if the other rooms in the house are labeled "slave quarters". Otherwise, master is just a word that designates the room as the largest bedroom in the house. Everyone understands that, and to pretend it means anything else is just dumb.

For people who want to distance themselves from every aspect of that time in history when slavery was legal, they sure bring it up a lot. Let's move on, shall we? No one alive today was a slave and no one alive today was a slave owner.
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