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Old 04-04-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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Banning the smoke part of smoking should be the concern with many communities and businesses having no smoking policies. Same for apartments.

True one should be able to decide what they want but that's the thing that decision and the smoke is on the smoker. Other people should not have to endure or breathe second hand smoke. Same for pot smoke, meth smoke, crack smoke, vape smoke what ever. Yes it's a rights issue but with things like second hand smoke it becomes the public's issue because they have the right not breath a smoker's poop.
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Old 04-04-2021, 11:29 PM
 
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Banning the smoke part of smoking should be the concern with many communities and businesses having no smoking policies. Same for apartments.

True one should be able to decide what they want but that's the thing that decision and the smoke is on the smoker. Other people should not have to endure or breathe second hand smoke. Same for pot smoke, meth smoke, crack smoke, vape smoke what ever. Yes it's a rights issue but with things like second hand smoke it becomes the public's issue because they have the right not breath a smoker's poop.
Isnt it crazy that up until fairly recently, no one seemed to care about 'smoking sections' in restaurants, or bars?! If I remember correctly people started talking about this in or around 1997-1999.


What does that say about us as a whole? LOL it took until almost the year 2000 before people recognized indoor smoking sections were not the best idea? !!! HA HA
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Old 04-04-2021, 11:36 PM
 
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Right. Church attendance. Look at Utah. Lowest smoking rate - 9%. I guess all of those Mormons don't go to church.
I think you understand what "kind of lines up with..." means. Nice try.
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Old 04-04-2021, 11:37 PM
 
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Whereas Rs would favor making sure all of those unwanted 800k babies were carried to term, where they'd be dumped onto the welfare roles of an underfunded system trying to support parents who cannot afford to take care of their children (and so probably shouldn't have had them). And Rs won't favor increasing funding for that system to adequately care for those children either. They will support the child existing in perpetuity in poverty with its mother, simply as a visible symbol to her of the regret and hardship that resulted from her failure to be chaste and keep her legs closed until marriage.
Yeah, you are right...better off dead.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:18 AM
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Whereas Rs would favor making sure all of those unwanted 800k babies were carried to term, where they'd be dumped onto the welfare roles of an underfunded system trying to support parents who cannot afford to take care of their children (and so probably shouldn't have had them). And Rs won't favor increasing funding for that system to adequately care for those children either. They will support the child existing in perpetuity in poverty with its mother, simply as a visible symbol to her of the regret and hardship that resulted from her failure to be chaste and keep her legs closed until marriage.
Of course if passed a Tennessee bill would require that unchaste hussy to carry the "regret and hardship" because it is her fault that she could not outrun the rapist or incestuous family member that impregnated her...
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Old 04-05-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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Didn't read all 9 pages - but I'm sure many folks said, "Because smoking isn't contagious."


But the real reason is much simpler, OP: Deaths do not matter, regarding COVID. Nope. They are NOT (mainly) why we are suffering restrictions - resources are. CANCER and other smoking related diseases have not threatened to overwhelm any local medical system. Not ever. So you are free to continue to make poor decisions and maybe die in the process - because SMOKING doesn't fill up hospitals. That's it. Simple answer. No need to hunt for weird other angles.



That's not to say COVID hasn't killed a ridiculous amount of people - it has. But dead people don't need hospitals.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:07 AM
 
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If you look at why the Chinese, and the black people were 'associated with' and targeted for heroin, it was for very specific reasons though, (the dangers of the drug have never been a factor) and are not today.


The dangers of the drug are only used as a deception, (just like it was used in the past, with the Chinese and black people), the govt has even admitted they lied about the dangers and its real goal was to target a specific race! Its not like the govt can just come out and admit they are targeting specific races, its common sense they would use 'health/safety' as the excuse.
The dangers of heroin are not overstated. Extremely addictive and kills many people every year. But this may be one of the unintended consequences of drug laws. Smoking opium was probably relatively harmless. By outlawing opium, they only forced users into cheaper and more potent forms like heroin and now fentanyl. Same thing happened with cocaine leading to crack.

I'm actually for legalization of all drugs. But I doubt that laws against crack or heroin were made specifically to target certain races of people.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Pretty sure Dems pushed for banning smoking in public buildings in a lot of states.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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Pretty sure Dems pushed for banning smoking in public buildings in a lot of states.
Don't know if it was Dems or not, but thank God for it.
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:30 PM
 
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The dangers of heroin are not overstated. Extremely addictive and kills many people every year. But this may be one of the unintended consequences of drug laws. Smoking opium was probably relatively harmless. By outlawing opium, they only forced users into cheaper and more potent forms like heroin and now fentanyl. Same thing happened with cocaine leading to crack.

I'm actually for legalization of all drugs. But I doubt that laws against crack or heroin were made specifically to target certain races of people.
Years ago when Crack first came onto the scene, large majority of crack arrests were 'black people'...same thing today, majority of Heroin arrests are white people.


That is an awfully big coincidence! (especially today, with Heroin), as it pretty easy to recognize there is a definite effort to 'target' people for being white...(what are the chances its 'white folks' who are the majority of people for arrested for Heroin?!)
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