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Old 05-21-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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I dont really understand these kinds of threads...


People are relying on the govt to disclose what it knows about UFOs...


Why are these UFOs not 'introducing themselves' or disclosing information?



How could any world govt control the information about these things in the first place?


The important thing to keep in mind in relation to this topic...the UFOs themselves PREFER TO STAY HIDDEN IN THE SHADOWS.
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Old 05-21-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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That has been well reported for years. And not just once, and not just the United States. Think about it for a minute, it seems what ever these things are, are able to turn off and turn on specific weapon systems, at the same time leave the lights on without ever entering the building.
Yeah, I hoped they addressed this in the “closed” session.
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Old 05-21-2022, 09:36 AM
 
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Can you name any recent technology that matches what is described in UFO reports? We are not even close to any of the technology descriptions in UFO reports!
The real question is does one believe these UFO reports you are describing at face value?

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Seen any totally silent aircraft lately, or any that can standstill in mid air and take off so fast it appears like it vanished? Or how about any aircraft that can break our laws of physics, seen any like that lately?

The gold ball I saw was DEFINITELY not some experimental aircraft.
I have never seen a UFO. I am a person who is outside a lot both day and night. I have been all over the country. Yes there are radar reports and matching eyewitness accounts of craft doing things that are way beyond our understanding. Do we have some secret program to create holographic or laser images that show up on radar and appear to be in the sky? We don't have to create an actual craft like that we need the technology to create something that appears to be real. And it would be easy to project these laser imagines to do things that appear to be impossible. And this technology is being used by our military today.

Can this Navy patent explain away many UAP sightings?

This new Navy tech aims to use lasers to fool air defense systems and missiles into thinking they see multiple aircraft or even a UAP for that matter–but the plan wasn’t to trick the world into thinking they were being visited by aliens.

A recent patent filed by the U.S. Navy meant to increase the survivability of stealth aircraft might do just that, but if the system works the way it’s supposed to, it could just as easily be used to project images into the sky that would look and act a whole lot like the strange crafts depicted in UAP footage released by the U.S. military in recent years.

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The problem you are making is, you are not factoring in the time periods these things have been seen, while you are partially correct about govt using UFOs as a cover for developmental aircraft...this theory falls completely apart when you factor in that these same UFOs have been seen for over 100 yrs.
Again you are believing reports of UFO sightings at face value. I question their legitimacy. Not that everyone is lying. Most are probably just mistaken. Impossible to say what someone thinks they saw 100 years ago.

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Not to mention, the agencies that work with developmental aircraft, do this in specific areas (for good reason), they dont just fly these experimental aircraft all over the country, and especially do not engage with the regular military for petes sake, (without the military knowing beforehand anyway)...that would be suicide, and risk having a multi billion dollar experimental aircraft destroyed by a missile? LOL
Yes there might be much more advanced civilizations out there. We have only had communications that could be picked up by another intelligent civilization for barely 100 years. And 100 years does not send it that far into space. Without that how would they know we are here?

Problem is solved if they are real and make themselves known. I am totally fine believing they are real. I just need better evidence.

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Old 05-21-2022, 09:52 AM
 
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Distraction news and basically only got more dribble.
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Old 05-21-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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The important thing to keep in mind in relation to this topic...the UFOs themselves PREFER TO STAY HIDDEN IN THE SHADOWS.

And you are basing this statement on what?
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:02 AM
 
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Many of the government released UFO videos are debunked.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r2oaQWmqkk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs

Deeper detail on how the pilot's testimony is contradictory, he admitted to previously faking a UFO, and other military personnel testimony contradicted his:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hMt6nki4RY

Next question is, is our military this incompetent or are they trying to fool us?
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:24 AM
 
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Many of the government released UFO videos are debunked.

Next question is, is our military this incompetent or are they trying to fool us?

They are trying to muddy things up intentionally. There has been a shift from trying to disprove all UFO reports to implying there is something going on they cannot explain. They are doing that to confuse our enemies. Russia, China etc.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:57 AM
 
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You think the alien/UFO instances are legit and being hidden from us since Roswell or is it all Government created spacecraft?
It's something. It's just not aliens. They're out there on various worlds (maybe many) but we will never meet them and vice versa. Only fantasy or highly theoretical/speculative physics suggests it's possible but special relativity which is our gold standard of science covering the boundary conditions of interstellar travel says that it's basically impossible. The nearest star with what appear to be habitable planets is proxima centauri 4.2LY away. With proven methods of propulsion the times are insane.
Gravity assist (proven method) - 76,000 years
Nuclear propulsion (never proven) - 1000 years
Electromagnetic drive (never proven) - 100 years ... G-Forces very high.
Fusion rockets (never proven) - 36 years. Insane G-forces and Helium would have to be mined along the way.
Laser sail with photon boost from earth - Reaches 25% of light speed in ten minutes. Acceleration of 50Gs. First you become a liquid glob against the wall and then as Gs continue to build your glob gets compressed back into a tiny solid. As if that's not enough you have no corresponding lasers on Proxima Centauri to slow you down so your little glob goes blasting past into infinity.

Not aliens.
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Old 05-21-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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It's something. It's just not aliens. They're out there on various worlds (maybe many) but we will never meet them and vice versa. Only fantasy or highly theoretical/speculative physics suggests it's possible but special relativity which is our gold standard of science covering the boundary conditions of interstellar travel says that it's basically impossible. The nearest star with what appear to be habitable planets is proxima centauri 4.2LY away. With proven methods of propulsion the times are insane.
Gravity assist (proven method) - 76,000 years
Nuclear propulsion (never proven) - 1000 years
Electromagnetic drive (never proven) - 100 years ... G-Forces very high.
Fusion rockets (never proven) - 36 years. Insane G-forces and Helium would have to be mined along the way.
Laser sail with photon boost from earth - Reaches 25% of light speed in ten minutes. Acceleration of 50Gs. First you become a liquid glob against the wall and then as Gs continue to build your glob gets compressed back into a tiny solid. As if that's not enough you have no corresponding lasers on Proxima Centauri to slow you down so your little glob goes blasting past into infinity.

Not aliens.

While I personally have no opinion on what UFOs are, this particular skeptic rationale is flawed.

You are confidently asserting what aliens cannot do based on our current capabilities. The universe is nearly 14 billion yrs old, our species is about 100-200k yrs old and our civilization is only around 10k yrs. It makes no sense to reference our current capabilities when speculating about civilizations thousands or millions of years older.

Besides if some intelligence is coming here from light years away, they arent likely doing it with chemical propulsion at all, but with the ability to manipulate gravity and space-time.

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Old 05-21-2022, 12:50 PM
 
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You think the alien/UFO instances are legit and being hidden from us since Roswell or is it all Government created spacecraft?
I think there are many unexplained phenomena in our universe, and we are no closer to figuring them out than we were before the pubic hearings.
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