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If that's your barometer for illnesses that need a vaccine, you need to roll up your sleeves and get about 4 million more vaccines to "protect" you for all those illnesses that have a 99% recovery rate.
And the fact of the matter is, the likelihood of someone dying from Covid is significantly less. I get tired of the "death rate" narrative. You have to actually catch the disease to have a chance of dying of it. Over a 14 month period, the CDC is reporting total deaths at 577,857 (as of today). We have over 328 million people in the United States. Obviously the chance of someone dying of Covid is much less than 1%. And if you're taking minimal precautions, the chances are even less.
With that in mind, I have had at least half the people I know that have gotten the vaccine have responses like my current buddy (a nurse)
Day 1
"I feel like crap. My arm is sore, headache, and my whole body aches"
Day 2
"I am still having body aches and sweating. I called the number and lady said it should subside today"
She is feeling better today.
So my thought is, how many of you that haven't had the vaccine would like to deal with this at least once a year (maybe twice since they're saying a booster is required in 6 months) when the likelihood of dying from this virus is as miniscule as it is? Clearly the vaccine is available for anyone that wants to take it.
It also means that 80 million people worldwide should be dead right now.
How close are we to that number, considering this has been ongoing since December 2019?
3.2 million. Out of 8 billion people.
Should 10s of millions more be dead?
Hah no it doesn't, the mortality rate of a disease is among people who have caught the disease. You generate a non-stop chain of hilarious responses that indicate a very fundamental misunderstanding of that which you post so much about.
Measles and typhoid both have much higher rate of spread, and much more dangerous to a much broader population-- not only higher death rate overall, but much higher death rate even for children and healthy people.
Treatment of the disease with antibiotics reduces the case-fatality rate to about 1%.
Typhoid has a mortality rate of 1%.
Both of those are lower than USA covid mortality rate of 1.8%. Congratulations you have now run the anti-vaxx misinformation campaign on both sides, you have attempted to discredit the effectiveness of very good vaccines and tried to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic, all with dishonest posting. You should feel ashamed.
Hah no it doesn't, the mortality rate of a disease is among people who have caught the disease. You generate a non-stop chain of hilarious responses that indicate a very fundamental misunderstanding of that which you post so much about.
Pretty much the majority is asymptomatic.
So yeah ... we've been exposed.
You do understand you can be exposed and your own personal immune system fights it, right?
So my thought is, how many of you that haven't had the vaccine would like to deal with this at least once a year (maybe twice since they're saying a booster is required in 6 months) when the likelihood of dying from this virus is as miniscule as it is? Clearly the vaccine is available for anyone that wants to take it.
It just doesn't make any sense to me. And then add on we don't know the long term effects... seems that the benefits do not outweigh the negative factors for anyone who is under 60 and looking at it with logic and reason.
You do understand you can be exposed and your own personal immune system fights it, right?
Good grief.
No, one cannot conclude from the existence of asymptomatic cases that "we've" been exposed, that is yet another link in the endless chain of false assumptions by you. USA has a mortality rate of about 1.8%, which classifies it as a very serious disease despite your attempts to downplay it.
The anti-vaxxer playbook:
1. This pandemic that has killed 570k Americans in a year is not serious.
2. These vaccines with very high efficacy don't work
3. These vaccines with very good safety record aren't safe
No, one cannot conclude from the existence of asymptomatic cases that "we've" been exposed, that is yet another link in the endless chain of false assumptions by you. USA has a mortality rate of about 1.8%, which classifies it as a very serious disease despite your attempts to downplay it.
The anti-vaxxer playbook:
1. This pandemic that has killed 570k Americans in a year is not serious.
2. These vaccines with very high efficacy don't work
3. These vaccines with very good safety record aren't safe
All of these are demonstrably false.
Nice straw man's all around. Congrats. Perhaps practice what you preach?
And the fact of the matter is, the likelihood of someone dying from Covid is significantly less. I get tired of the "death rate" narrative. You have to actually catch the disease to have a chance of dying of it. Over a 14 month period, the CDC is reporting total deaths at 577,857 (as of today). We have over 328 million people in the United States. Obviously the chance of someone dying of Covid is much less than 1%. And if you're taking minimal precautions, the chances are even less.
With that in mind, I have had at least half the people I know that have gotten the vaccine have responses like my current buddy (a nurse)
Day 1
"I feel like crap. My arm is sore, headache, and my whole body aches"
Day 2
"I am still having body aches and sweating. I called the number and lady said it should subside today"
She is feeling better today.
So my thought is, how many of you that haven't had the vaccine would like to deal with this at least once a year (maybe twice since they're saying a booster is required in 6 months) when the likelihood of dying from this virus is as miniscule as it is? Clearly the vaccine is available for anyone that wants to take it.
This is a great comment, all of it. Really shows how subtle and difficult this topic, and you've done great reasoning to really think lot of things through. Agree it doesn't make any sense for low risk people to take it, and even for those like us at higher risk, it's not an easy decision and things like timing are factor due to like you say, even the vaccine makers are admitting your immunity falls off fast and we'd probably soon need boosters anyway for.
Nice straw man's all around. Congrats. Perhaps practice what you preach?
If you'd like I can provide examples of all, in fact I can provide all three from someone posting in this thread.
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