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Old 06-18-2021, 07:14 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Let's see... I've lived here for about 45 years now (with a couple of short breaks) and there has been above-one-hundred-degree temps pretty much every single summer. Usually quite a number of them. Why should it be any different now? Is it just that Biden is in office and the world is supposed to turn into a paradise? Is that it? I'm sure it is in the mind of the typical leftist.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I finished reading the article. The headline is misrepresenting what the piece actually says. Shocking, I know.

Nowhere do we find "new normal" anywhere other than in her opinion, which shouldn't even be included in a piece not labeled as such.

Rather than citing this article and spreading misinformation about climate change, you should be chastising USA Today for misrepresenting the content and injecting opinions into news items.
EXCUSE ME -- I took the new normal from the HEADLINE, as follows, QUOTE:

"Abnormal temperatures are baking the Western US in triple digits. These heat waves could become the new normal."
END QUOTE. (underlining added for those who overlooked it.)



If you or anyone else chooses to dismiss these headlines, fine -- I actually agree with you that the media today are little more than mouthpieces for their bosses -- but I am very tired of being criticized by people who just don't actually read!

I'm out of here. Either believe it or not, I really don't care if you do. As far as I am concerned, if people want to stay out west, that would personally make me very happy that you are not coming to my area!
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:05 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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It's hard to say. There are shorter term climate fluctuations mapped on top of the global trend toward a globally warmer climate. It will take time to know for sure.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:08 AM
 
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When the right wingers come on here after a snow storm and bitter cold snap claiming global warming is a hoax, the lefties all remind them that it is "weather" not climate. That door should swing both ways. Until a pattern is established, there is no pattern. It's still just weather.
Accurate...
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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That is according to the following:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/7721768002/

If it does become the new normal, what do you think might be the result both in people moving elsewhere, and what other effects do you foresee, either politically or how that would affect U.S. society?



P.S. In related news, at least four states have ordered evacuations in some areas due to fires -- and it is only mid-June! https://weather.com/en-IN/india/envi...es-western-usa
Wow. It's hot in the USA during the SUMMER???????

You're kidding! Yeah, that's why we invented air conditioning many years ago.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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This happens every year. You should also look up the multi-year heat wave in the 1950's. My dad was a kid then and still talks about it, because nobody had air conditioning back then. I know all the young activists don't think weather happened before they were born, but it did, and it could be brutal even when there were far fewer people on the planet.
Swamp Coolers!

I've lived in our hottest city since 1981. I think it was 1994 when we had 6 days in a row over 120, peaking at the US record of 128. Our swamp coolers worked fine at that temp! Today might be day 3 of >120. I think what is actually happening, is that our night time lows are rising. And that is not nearly as important as the highs.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:25 AM
 
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Wait its June and its hot in arizona shocker. Really grew up in Tucson gorgeous weather most of the year, three months or so of 100 plus temperature but really the dry heat is true if you drink plenty of water and stay in the shade your fine, even with Evaporative cooling and no AC. Now August on the other hand when the monsoons start and the humidity kicks up well that is hell. It's also when your Evaporative Coolers stop working, remember to this day when my parents but in duel cooling and that AC first kicked on, the greatest gift mankind ever produced.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:26 AM
 
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I visited Arizona and Nevada in the early 80's.
It was hot back then. I mean brutal triple digits.............

But ...but ...it's a dry heat they say.......hahaha....tell that to the Arizona Snowman.

People call them the valley of the Sun.................Hahaha...more like the surface of the Sun......Next...........
About a week or so ago (before this latest heat spell really got going) my wife and I were talking about one time we drove through Phoenix on the way to LA in a car with no AC. It was October and it was close to 110. This was in the early 80's.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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When the right wingers come on here after a snow storm and bitter cold snap claiming global warming is a hoax, the lefties all remind them that it is "weather" not climate. That door should swing both ways. Until a pattern is established, there is no pattern. It's still just weather.

As for the question, the west is still the best and people will continue to migrate and remain there.
Do we know how much hotter the US is than it was say 50 years ago?
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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It is 62 right now and the highs today will be in the low 70's. That article used Death Valley to represent California temperatures.

It's an example of irresponsible journalism: "new normal"? These journalists think they can create reality. It's weird to read their global warming doomsday predictions while having to put on a jacket because it's too cold.
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