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Old 06-19-2021, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Ok, so let's assume for a moment that man made climate change is driving us off a climate cliff... When is the potato in chief going to tell China to stop polluting so much??? Any guesses, or just back to blaming conservatives for the weather?
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:50 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Ok, so let's assume for a moment that man made climate change is driving us off a climate cliff... When is the potato in chief going to tell China to stop polluting so much??? Any guesses, or just back to blaming conservatives for the weather?
Why not just carpet bomb Wuhan? That should stir things up.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Any time the temp reaches 116 here in Tucson, I look up the temp of the city I used to live in, Minneapolis, and when I see 93 degrees up there, add in humidity, which we don't have in Tucson, and it would be just as miserable. And no mosquito's to deal with!
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Humans putting heat trapping gases into the atmosphere is trapping more heat. Why can’t republicans grasp such a simple concept?
Liberals, on the other hand, grasp such simple concepts readily.

Mostly because their minds can't - or won't - grasp the rest of the subject, such as:

1.) Despite nearly 50 years of trying, no one has ever established what increase in CO2 will cause a certain amount of change in temperature... or if the amount we are seeing will increase temperatures by even a barely-detectable amount.

2.) While CO2 that absorbs solar radiation can raise the temperature, CO2 also reflects incoming solar radiation - that is, it prevents a significant amount of solar radiation from ever getting into most of the atmosphere, thus preventing much of the greenhouse effect, and contributing to the cooling of the atmosphere.

3.) Green plants commonly absorb CO2, break it down, and emit oxygen. That's where most of the oxygen in our atmosphere comes from. If the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, this presents more "food" to the plants and encourages their growth... resulting in turn in their breaking down even more CO2 and producing more oxygen. It's a natural feedback mechanism that prevents increases in CO2 from lasting very long.

4.) Water naturally absorbs CO2, producing carbonic acid (one of the ingredients of "acid rain") and other compounds. With the earth's surface 75% covered in water, the oceans provide a huge buffer for keeping CO2 under control and stopping it from rising very much.

5.) There are other complicating factors, but you get the idea.

Liberals constantly complain that normal people "can't grasp such a simple concept" as CO2 trapping heat. That's because the effect of CO2 on the earth's atmosphere is anything but simple - a concept well understood by normal people, but rejected and seldom comprehended by the simple minds of the liberals.
The far left has been wailing for half a century now, that man is changing the climate (in various directions, depending on which leftist has the microphone today) by adding "too much" CO2 to the air. And they have been insisting that we must give government much more control and authority, and $trillions in tax money to somehow "take care" of this "problem". (Isn't it peculiar how so many of leftists' problems call for that same exact solution?)

But strangely, in all that time no one has ever been able to point to a study demonstrating that if you add XX percent more CO2, you'll wind up with YY percent increase in temperature. It's a fundamental concept that completely dictates the nature and extent of the problem, if there is one. Why has such a study been so conspicuously absent for more than fifty years since the wailing began?

Could it be that such studies have been run, and compiled, and concluded, even back near the beginning of the whole fracas... only to find that it's practically impossible to add sufficient CO2 to actually change the climate? Without the various feedback mechanisms hinted at above, swinging into action and reducing the CO2 back to levels that still don't matter much? And so those studies have been quietly deep-sixed by the leftists, and only the wailing and insistence that "everybody knows" remaining for them to keep pushing on the rest of the world?

It's practically inconceivable that NO such studies have ever been done. Particularly considering how important the results may be. Is it more likely that such CO2 studies HAVE been done... but didn't produce the results the liberals wanted? And so have been quietly buried in the back of a few dusty paper-based journals no one ever reads?

While the leftists carry on their strident (however unfounded) quest to turn over an even bigger chunk of our economy to government control?

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Old 06-19-2021, 01:24 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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But strangely, in all that time no one has ever been able to point to a study demonstrating that if you add XX percent more CO2, you'll wind up with YY percent increase in temperature. It's a fundamental concept that completely dictates the nature and extent of the problem, if there is one. Why has such a study been so conspicuously absent for more than fifty years since the wailing began?
Because the wailing is being done by political forces who don't care what science says.
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:26 PM
 
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For everyone saying dont worry about it, come back in August
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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This happens every year. You should also look up the multi-year heat wave in the 1950's. My dad was a kid then and still talks about it, because nobody had air conditioning back then. I know all the young activists don't think weather happened before they were born, but it did, and it could be brutal even when there were far fewer people on the planet.
My parents still talked about the 1950's, they made it sound like hell on earth. Leaving for trips at 3 a.m. because your car didn't have air conditioning, etc.. The west has always had triple digits in the summer. I would say how can people forget, but like you said most of us weren't born yet. In the sixties, I do remember my grandparents having a window unit in their bedroom and tv room, but the guest rooms forget it. They had some sort of unit that pulled air throughout the house which helped and huge shade trees. We had central air, thank God.
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:36 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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This happens every year. You should also look up the multi-year heat wave in the 1950's. My dad was a kid then and still talks about it, because nobody had air conditioning back then. I know all the young activists don't think weather happened before they were born, but it did, and it could be brutal even when there were far fewer people on the planet.
I sure remember heat waves in NYC. No a/c back in the 60's. The best we had was when the fire hydrants got opened and all cooled off in the water (even some adults).
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Because the wailing is being done by political forces who don't care what science says.
If science was showing they were right, they'd care a lot about it. And would have been pointing to the studies 24/7/365.

Could it be that the science proved them wrong? And so they never, ever point to it? And only bring up fake, contradictory "information"?
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:03 PM
 
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have any of these earth shattering....world record breaking....temperatures

...actually broken a temperature record yet?
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