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Old 06-19-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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My parents still talked about the 1950's, they made it sound like hell on earth. Leaving for trips at 3 a.m. because your car didn't have air conditioning, etc.. The west has always had triple digits in the summer. I would say how can people forget, but like you said most of us weren't born yet. In the sixties, I do remember my grandparents having a window unit in their bedroom and tv room, but the guest rooms forget it. They had some sort of unit that pulled air throughout the house which helped and huge shade trees. We had central air, thank God.
Big exhaust fan in the hallway ceiling that drew air into the attic, then out.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:15 PM
 
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have any of these earth shattering....world record breaking....temperatures

...actually broken a temperature record yet?
Yep...record heat in areas of California...over 100 degrees at 10pm and a record high 123 degrees in Palm Springs a few days ago...not even summer yet.


https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2021/06/1...ave-continues/
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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I finished reading the article. The headline is misrepresenting what the piece actually says. Shocking, I know.

Nowhere do we find "new normal" anywhere other than in her opinion, which shouldn't even be included in a piece not labeled as such.

Rather than citing this article and spreading misinformation about climate change, you should be chastising USA Today for misrepresenting the content and injecting opinions into news items.
Thanks for pointing this out. You’re right; no where in the article does it say that this is the new normal. No where does it say that the current heat wave is caused by global warming.

Scientists would never say that an isolated event like this proves climate change theory, just as a cold snap does not disprove it.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:42 PM
 
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That is according to the following:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/7721768002/

If it does become the new normal, what do you think might be the result both in people moving elsewhere, and what other effects do you foresee, either politically or how that would affect U.S. society?



P.S. In related news, at least four states have ordered evacuations in some areas due to fires -- and it is only mid-June! https://weather.com/en-IN/india/envi...es-western-usa
That, along with the water issues out there are going to make for some stressful times.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:45 PM
 
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But strangely, in all that time no one has ever been able to point to a study demonstrating that if you add XX percent more CO2, you'll wind up with YY percent increase in temperature. It's a fundamental concept that completely dictates the nature and extent of the problem, if there is one. Why has such a study been so conspicuously absent for more than fifty years ?
There have been plenty of mathematical models generated to do just that. And these models appear to be relatively accurate in that the historical data fits the model. But how exactly would you run a study like you are suggesting? Take two Earths, and open up the CO2 spigot on one planet while shutting it down on the other, and then see if in 100 years the models accurately predict the temps? Well, we only have one Earth, and we can’t control the amount of CO2 that people are creating.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:52 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Yep...record heat in areas of California...over 100 degrees at 10pm and a record high 123 degrees in Palm Springs a few days ago...not even summer yet.


https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2021/06/1...ave-continues/
A few days from 6/21...official start of summer.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:54 PM
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Ok, so let's assume for a moment that man made climate change is driving us off a climate cliff... When is the potato in chief going to tell China to stop polluting so much??? Any guesses, or just back to blaming conservatives for the weather?

Forget China. BTW it is a stretch to call CO2 a pollutant.



Joe Biden, Jay Inslee, Katie Brown, and Gavin Newsome do NOT believe in man-caused climate change.


According to them we have SEVEN years left to save the planet from man-caused climate change. Biden would like to reduce CO2 emissions by 50% in the US by 2030. Two years after the planet dies!!!


BUT WAIT. Jay Inslee, Katie Brown, and Gavin Newsome can reduce CO2 emissions by 10% TOMORROW.


AND each of them has the authority to do it......TOMORROW.

That would be 20% towards meeting President Biden's goal. Why do they NOT want to do it TOMORROW??? They are not even talking about implementing anytime soon!!!


The Europeans take man-caused climate change and they are quickly implementing the new rules.



As mentioned it reduced CO2 emissions by 10% overnight, it saves lives starting tomorrow, and it even saves money starting tomorrow.


We even had this regulation for 23 years when it was repealed by Clinton/Gore just as global temperatures started increasing!!!



55 MPH reduces CO2 emissions by 10%, saves lives, and money. Governors Jay Inslee, Katie Brown, and Gavin Newsome have the authority to do it TOMORROW.



Not only have they refused to do it. They even refuse to talk about it. SEVEN YEARS left to save the planet and NO ACTION. If you believe in man-caused climate change you really have to be pretty stupid not to implement 55 MPH TOMORROW. Governor Inslee is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but the other two are pretty smart.



The only conclusion I can draw is they do NOT believe man-caused climate change is real.
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Old 06-19-2021, 03:07 PM
 
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That is according to the following:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/7721768002/

If it does become the new normal, what do you think might be the result both in people moving elsewhere, and what other effects do you foresee, either politically or how that would affect U.S. society?



P.S. In related news, at least four states have ordered evacuations in some areas due to fires -- and it is only mid-June! https://weather.com/en-IN/india/envi...es-western-usa
It''s the new norm Norm. As the planet super heats we will see much less rain on most parts of the globe like in my part of FL. The west will never see rain in our lifetimes like it used to get. I no longer have real winters and see very little rain in my part of FL living right on the gulf. All life will be gone out past 140 years for the most part as the seas super heat and once they heat up enough the jet stream will go away for good.
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Old 06-19-2021, 03:08 PM
 
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That, along with the water issues out there are going to make for some stressful times.
Lake Meade will be all gone within our lifetimes. Better start building over 500 desal plants grant as there will be no water left for out west.
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Old 06-19-2021, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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That is according to the following:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/7721768002/

If it does become the new normal, what do you think might be the result both in people moving elsewhere, and what other effects do you foresee, either politically or how that would affect U.S. society?



P.S. In related news, at least four states have ordered evacuations in some areas due to fires -- and it is only mid-June! https://weather.com/en-IN/india/envi...es-western-usa
Triple digits in the American southwest have been normal for as long as records have been kept, and probably many years before that.
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