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If a person wants a Confederate flag or Confederate statue on their own private property, that is there choice. I won't have any respect for said persons. However, that is their choice.
Confederate statues and Confederate flags do not belong in public spaces. They should never be funded with public money.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ClaraC Not on public property with public funds." What ever happened in our country to "majority rules"?
If a town, city, etc,, that the PEOPLE OWN want something and the MAJORITY of the people vote in FAVOR, what RIGHT do outsiders have in telling them what they can and cant have on THEIR property?
I don't like all the DOZENS of things in West Virginia named after a KKK leader who became a DEM U.S Senator. Do I have the right to tell THEM to drop his name from everything?
It is ALSO mote, not a single dem has complained about his name everywhere.
"By the way, a lot of Black people" also FOUGHT FOR THE SOUTH...
Nope. Myth. Lost Cause fabrication right in the first sentence.
Very late in the war, when the confederacy was cornered like a rat and saw no other way out, the idea was aired to raise black regiments with the promise of manumission for service. Predictably, a whole lot of Southern Gentlemen threw a snit-fit - that was against everything they had fought for.
We fought Germany TWICE, yet are now a good ally. Should we NOT be friend for what they did in the past to us?
I must have missed the statues of German WWII generals in places of honor in the US. Care to point them out?
If the former Slave States (that is what they called themselves) had grown up to have a reckoning with their past like Germany, we wouldn't have to have this conversation.
It's so odd that you keep calling the left book burners.
It seems you have no idea the history of book burning.
Who are the ones demolishing history in 2021? Tearing down every statue they can find and (literally) banning books?
I can't even watch Gone with the Wind without some nanny BS appearing to tell me what I should think of it before it starts. Do you think modern conservatives are doing that?
Very late in the war, when the confederacy was cornered like a rat and saw no other way out, the idea was aired to raise black regiments with the promise of manumission for service. Predictably, a whole lot of Southern Gentlemen threw a snit-fit - that was against everything they had fought for.
The vast majority of Blacks fought for the Union, the vast majority. Anyone who tries to bring up "Black Confederates" needs to know that.
Do you favor erasing all the founding fathers who owned slaves from our history? Because they are next, you can bet on it.
I do not and no they aren’t. Also, no confederate leaders are being erased from history by moving the location at which these statues are exhibited. That is an absurd description.
The vast majority of Blacks fought for the Union, the vast majority. Anyone who tries to bring up "Black Confederates" needs to know that.
There were black laborers, teamsters, cooks and whatnot in the Confederate Army, but the idea that black men fought for the Confederacy is another attempt at justification, for whatever reason. It was actually a problem for the Confederate army - a lot of their soldiers had gotten used to the idea that grunt work was handled by whatever black man was at hand, and they did not relish the the idea of cutting trenches or other military field work.
There was a militia of free blacks that attempted to sign up (in Louisiana, 1861) - but that was just too much for the Southern Gentleman Class to handle and they were instead ordered to disarm. Apparently, quite a few of them joined up with the Union instead, to sort of return the insult with interest.
Confederate army attacked a U.S. military base, and then waged a war against the U.S. Robert E. Lee took an oath on his honor to defend the U.S. and the Constitution when he graduated from West Point. Then he violated that oath.
Slavery, the cause they fought for, was not viewed as acceptable at the time. If it had been, there would have been no need to commit treason,
We don't need statues to remember Benedict Arnold, and we don't need statues to remember these traitors.
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