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Yes, they can still spread it and that is my concern with children under 12. I think children who can't get the vaccine should wear masks in schools. I have no idea what the big deal is with this.
So, you do NOT understand that the virus that mutates in the vaccinated is resistant to the vaccine? That is actually how viruses survive. The virus that kills the host doesn't spread.
I live in a state that does not mandate masks therefore I will not wear one. I will wear one if I enter a business or domicile that requires it - without a fuss. So it's a much bigger deal to YOU as you are the one barking orders for everyone to wear a mask to "protect others", suggesting that those that don't should not go to the hospital. But it's not a big deal to me because my state does not have a mask mandate.
Sane people understand that they are responsible for their own health, finances... self, period. It is up to each individual to mitigate their own risks.
So, you do NOT understand that the virus that mutates in the vaccinated is resistant to the vaccine? That is actually how viruses survive. The virus that kills the host doesn't spread.
I live in a state that does not mandate masks therefore I will not wear one. I will wear one if I enter a business or domicile that requires it - without a fuss. So it's a much bigger deal to YOU barking orders for everyone to wear one to "protect others", suggesting that those that don't should go to the hospital, but not to me.
Sane people understand that they are responsible for their own health, finances... self, period. It is up to each individual to mitigate their own risks.
You completely disregarded my concern for kids under 12
All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19 as seen in clinical trial settings. Covid19 is the disease caused by the Sars/Covid virus... so that is consistent with what I said, it reduces or eliminates symptoms
Research provides growing evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines offer similar protection in real world conditions. not very reassuring
COVID-19 vaccination is an important tool to help stop the COVID-19 pandemic. ok
COVID-19 vaccination helps protect people from getting sick or severely ill with COVID-19 and might also help protect people around them. Wow... I wish I would have said that... Oh wait.
To receive the most protection, people should receive all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine.
Some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick because no vaccine is 100% effective. Experts continue to monitor and evaluate how often this occurs, how severe their illness is, and how likely a vaccinated person is to spread COVID-19 to others. I hope they get back to us on this.
CDC recommends you get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as one is available to you. Yeah ok.
So, I am wrong? Your first source seems to agree with me. I'll look at the others when I can get to them. You really ought to review your "proof" before you post it.
The vaccines reduce the chance of infection, reduce the chance of serious disease and deaths. Reduced cases means the virus is better contained with less spread. Less spread means less active virus running around, and that means less chance of mutations and then variants.
It is not all all or none thing, but is very efficient with mitigation. It is much more likely that a vaccinated person if infected, will be a mild case.
You said it yourself, reduced chance. Less spread, less active, less chance. Not NO chance or spread. Not NO chance of mutations and variants. Remember, it only takes one.
Your second paragraph is in agreement with what I said so, I won't go there.
Just looking at your first link:
So, I am wrong? Your first source seems to agree with me. I'll look at the others when I can get to them. You really ought to review your "proof" before you post it.
The nature article is pure conjecture. "Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, maybe we need more information?"
The gavi link covers further transmission, not infection.
However, it asked a question that was recently answered: "Reducing the risk of transmitting the coronavirus relies on developing strong immunity against the virus. But immunity, even from the vaccines, fades over time. Scientists are actively monitoring people who’ve had COVID-19 vaccines to understand how long vaccine immunity is likely to last, and if and when booster shots will be required."
Israel's health department posted information that appears to show that, after six months, vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals are equally likely to be infected (it does still reduce chance of hospitalization.)
The Canada link is limited in data. It reads more like an encouragement to get a vaccine than a source of information.
None of it covers the thread topic: How do we end COVID19?
You still get infected (vaccinated or not.) The vaccine preps your body to fight it off once infected. The vaccines won't "end" COVID19.
Vaccination just means you have to worry a little less about the hospital bills (and possible death) from COVID19.
Wow. This is the difference between republicans and democrats. Republicans only care about themselves and to hell with everyone else.
The problem is that most Democrats are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves, expecting everyone else to do it for them.
I’m a registered Independent, btw. But don’t let that stop you from playing politics with a pandemic. I’m sure that helps bridge the vaccination gap.
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