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Vaccines still very effective against Delta...booster shots will be necessary at some point though for the vaccinated (thanks to current unvaccinated variant spread) which the vaccinated will gladly get. Very important for all to continue masking up, socially distancing, and following public health protocols as well since more to learn on Delta and future more dangerous variants.
Most recent Yale Medicine Delta variant information here (from 2 days ago)...
A real contrast compared to England where most of the deaths had got an imperfect but effective jab as that article from the Guardian said. https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...een-vaccinated I guess most of the vaccinated used AstraZeneca.
I did...you are correct for now... however vaccinated spreading Delta at much lower rates due to lower viral load and vaccines still extremely effective against Delta. At some point in the future booster shots will be necessary for the vaccinated...will promptly get mine when necessary.
Most recent Yale Medicine info on Delta Variant here...
Israeli data is more conclusive and more current.
And it says: Moreover, the data indicates that the current vaccines used (Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, AstraZeneca) may have a decreasing effect on reduced hospitalizations and death if one does get infected with the Delta variant.
Yes I did...Vaccines very effective against current Delta Variant although still much more to learn...happening now. You and some others on here are chomping at the bit just hoping the vaccines fail...however for now, they are doing great!
Meanwhile...get used to me posting this fact...
Over 99% of all US Covid hospitalizations/deaths due to the unvaccinated
The way I see it is it won't take all that long for Covid to kill the non-vaxxers. 2-3 years maybe.
As infectious as Delta is, Delta could mutate into something even more infectious and run influenza clear out of business.
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Originally Posted by Zoisite
The anti-vaxxers choose to die so let them die. Once they're all dead and gone the nation of vaccinated people will have achieved herd immunity. It won't take forever so you don't need to worry about staying locked down forever. Like Banjo Mike said above, maybe another 2 or 3 years before all those who are susceptible have expired. It isn't half the country that won't accept vaccines, it's 33% of the population (98 million) who are refusing the vaccines. The country is over populated enough that it could do with a third of the nation being culled out anyway.
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In other words, American-styled SNAFU.
While mostly agreeing with 2 of the most reasonable, not to mention helpful c-d members (quoted above), I think most would agree it really doesn't have to be this way. Apparently we choose; pandemics cannot simply be avoided with impotent & simple claims of American exceptionalism.
Let's face it, that's a ridiculous problem-solving strategy.
A real contrast compared to England where most of the deaths had got an imperfect but effective jab as that article from the Guardian said. https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...een-vaccinated I guess most of the vaccinated used AstraZeneca.
I do think we should look at Ivermectin. If I remember correctly, field use (non-clinical trial) showed about an 86% effectiveness as a prophylactic. However, it would be nice to see more results from current studies and trials.
The Guardian article:
The vaccine is protective against hospitalization and death. However, it reduces your chances, not nullifies them. The risk of COVID19 caused death increases with age (logarithmically every 7 years above age 50.) If you have vaccinated 93%+ of the population over 65, you can expect that most deaths to COVID19 would be vaccinated. (I think there have been more than a few topics on this board about this data.)
The same thing man has done with viruses since the dawn of time - let the unvaccinated ride them out.
This is pretty backward thinking.
Vaccines can eradicate diseases, we nearly accomplished the total eradication of polio. There are only two countries left reporting polio cases and the only reason they still have the disease is backward thinking people there (religious fundamentalists who would attack the medical providers). Those mountain people opposed the vaccine programs that were helping them.
You might have guessed that those two countries are Pakistan and Afghanistan. You people are sounding a lot like those backward Muslim tribes.
Because of those crazy backward tribal lunatics the rest of the world has to keep administering vaccines for polio. Of course, people like you oppose those programs and if we follow that lead we may well see the disease come back right here.
I think covid will be around in some form or another for years, just like the flu is, despite yearly shots tweeked for the latest mutation.
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