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You are ignoring reality. Unwanted pregnancies happen, even in this day and age where birth control is available. As has been mentioned umpteen times before, in the real world birth control is only 90% effective.
Then there are the times when the sex drive gets in the way of "responsibility." Maybe you have forgotten just how strong that sex drive can be in a young person.
And no, we should not be forcing women to go through 9 months of pregnancy and painful labor to have a child for someone else.
In the first trimester, pregnancy does not equal a person. A fertilized egg is not a person. Abortion is preventing a person from coming about. It is NOT a child at that point in time.
The reality is if you know you can't control your sexual desires then make sure you have birth control products and use them when the mood strikes you.
The woman forces herself to give birth by not adhering to the above. If a fertilized egg isn't a human then what is it?
That's exactly why so many are opposed to abortion. An unborn child is NOT any woman's property, it's a separate human life.
That's a belief that makes women mere vessels for childbearing, subject to the whims of control freaks who think a zygote must be allowed to develop, regardless of the impact on the woman. It's an attitude that makes a zygote superior to the woman who happens to be carrying it. A zygote or fetus is not a separate human life, it's a parasite that may develop into a human after some period of time, assuming there's no miscarriage.
That's a belief that makes women mere vessels for childbearing, subject to the whims of control freaks who think a zygote must be allowed to develop, regardless of the impact on the woman.
Not at all. We KNOW that only 5% of all unintended pregnancies are due to actual birth control failure. 95% of the time, women are successfully able to be responsible enough to proactively control their own fertility.
Not at all. We KNOW that only 5% of all unintended pregnancies are due to actual birth control failure. 95% of the time, women are successfully able to be responsible enough to proactively control their own fertility.
I wonder why these pro-abortionists keep ignoring that fact and keep resorting back to their same ole nonsense like "forced childbearing", "women are being used for child bearing", etc. Just how much more desperate are their arguments going to get? They never admit that the whole scenario is brought on by the woman herself.
Not at all. We KNOW that only 5% of all unintended pregnancies are due to actual birth control failure. 95% of the time, women are successfully able to be responsible enough to proactively control their own fertility.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
I wonder why these pro-abortionists keep ignoring that fact and keep resorting back to their same ole nonsense like "forced childbearing", "women are being used for child bearing", etc. Just how much more desperate are their arguments going to get? They never admit that the whole scenario is brought on by the woman herself.
Exactly. 95% of the time, that is absolutely correct.
I wonder why these pro-abortionists keep ignoring that fact and keep resorting back to their same ole nonsense like "forced childbearing", "women are being used for child bearing", etc. Just how much more desperate are their arguments going to get? They never admit that the whole scenario is brought on by the woman herself.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
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Exactly. 95% of the time, that is absolutely correct.
So, once again, we see the argument that women need to be punished for a birth control failure by being forced to bear a child they do not want, and may not be able to take care of. However, we never see the anti-abortion crowd offer to step up and help the woman get through the difficult early part of being a mother, rather they howl "personal responsibility" or other such nonsense. It must be so great to be so perfect that you never make a mistake, forget to take a pill, have a condom break, etc. I've never been that perfect, and do not try to force perfection on others. I am a realist, who knows that stuff happens, that birth control is 90% effective in real life, and that it's none of my business whether a woman chooses to have an abortion. All the anti-abortion crowd can say is "gee, pregnant woman, you must be stupid, since you apparently didn't use birth control effectively. Now suffer through pregnancy while we laugh out loud at you and your stupidity, because we were perfect".
Can the male parent choose to have the baby he doesn't want aborted? No. So no choice for men = no choice for women. Either anyone can kill an unborn child, or no one can. You can't have it both ways. That's unconstitutional.
Men have the right to stop any other human being from using their body without their consent. If men would like an equal say in childbirth, then they should get no say in whether another person wants to use their bone marrow or one of their kidneys.
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