GOP strategy BACKFIRES: America blames the unvaccinated, Trump, and conservative media (Congress, Reid)
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Do you feel the same about people who choose not to take a flu shot every year? Flu also spreads and kills people every single year. I’ve never heard of anyone blaming others for giving them the flu or calling people who don’t want the flu shot murderers.
The older people who refuse the Covid vaccine may live to regret it. The younger people may end up with a mild case of Covid and add to our level of herd immunity. If the virus really starts harming more and more people, they will choose to get the shot on their own. The fact is that most people who are vulnerable to this disease have already been vaccinated.
They can't help it...they are just followers, being told whom to demonize.
A release also states the city is asking the federal government for relief due to the increase of individuals being released into the city by officials.
“I know y’all are angry, and we get the calls, we get the texts and we get the emails,” McAllen Mayor Javier Villalobos said in a social media post. “But please do not misplace your anger. It is not our commission that is responsible for this they did what they had to do to protect each and every one of you.”
According to the city of McAllen, since mid-February of 2021, there have been over 7,000 confirmed COVID-19 positive immigrants released into the City of McAllen by CBP, including over 1,500 new cases in the past seven days.
Hidalgo County Judge Richard Cortez told ValleyCentral the infection rate for migrants rose to a shocking 16%, doubling the numbers from last time.
This is just one city along the border. There are more cities along the border with the same issues, not to mention the ones who make it through at places other than checkpoints. There are a lot of migrants with Covid, and it’s overwhelming the system and they can’t hold them all so they just release them.
That’s not right. It absolutely does spread it to our own citizens, throughout the country as many get on busses or planes to other cities and states.
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Do you feel the same about people who choose not to take a flu shot every year? Flu also spreads and kills people every single year. I’ve never heard of anyone blaming others for giving them the flu or calling people who don’t want the flu shot murderers.
The older people who refuse the Covid vaccine may live to regret it. The younger people may end up with a mild case of Covid and add to our level of herd immunity. If the virus really starts harming more and more people, they will choose to get the shot on their own. The fact is that most people who are vulnerable to this disease have already been vaccinated.
If Covid were severe enough to larger segments of the population they wouldn’t need a PR campaign to convince young people to take the jab.
Topic: We are talking about COVID, not influenza. Stay on topic. (And people should get the flu shot annually, particularly if they have underlying conditions like lung diseases that make them especially vulnerable.)
Reality #1: COVID has already claimed over 600,000 Americans in the short time it has circulated in our public and has disrupted everyone’s lives.
Reality #2: The vaccines have demonstrated benefits
Reality #3: Public health efforts have depended heavily on vaccinating the public against COVID, it is the most effective weapon we have available currently in addition to social distancing, practicing excellent hand hygiene, and masks.
Reality #4: When people choose to ignore public health guidance, when people choose themselves over social responsibility during a pandemic, be prepared to assume blame and all the consequences society will impose.
Topic: We are talking about COVID, not influenza. Stay on topic. (And people should get the flu shot annually, particularly if they have underlying conditions like lung diseases that make them especially vulnerable.)
Reality #1: COVID has already claimed over 600,000 Americans in the short time it has circulated in our public and has disrupted everyone’s lives.
Reality #2: The vaccines have demonstrated benefits
Reality #3: Public health efforts have depended heavily on vaccinating the public against COVID, it is the most effective weapon we have available currently in addition to social distancing, practicing excellent hand hygiene, and masks.
Reality #4: When people choose to ignore public health guidance, when people choose themselves over social responsibility during a pandemic, be prepared to assume blame and all the consequences society will impose.
Hope this was helpful. Very best.
Reality is that the two topics are related to what you posted, which was that people who refuse vaccine should suffer consequences. We have never done that for flu despite the fact that the flu does kill thousands of people every year (and I believe it did last year too even though it was attributed to the Covid death count).
Blame away, just be sure to blame everyone instead of just the ones you don’t like. But if that blame turns into policy then it’s not at all what this country stands for. We are supposedly a free country. Not everyone can take the vaccine. The ones who don’t but should may get sick, just like people have in the past regarding flu. The vaccine is still in the experimental phase. The disease is really most harmful to older people, and the vast majority of those older people have received their vaccine.
And until the border is secure and the federal government doesn’t just allow covid infected people in willy-nilly, they can GFT if they think they can punish US citizens who refuse vaccine.
Reality is that the two topics are related to what you posted, which was that people who refuse vaccine should suffer consequences. We have never done that for flu despite the fact that the flu does kill thousands of people every year (and I believe it did last year too even though it was attributed to the Covid death count).
Blame away, just be sure to blame everyone instead of just the ones you don’t like. But if that blame turns into policy then it’s not at all what this country stands for. We are supposedly a free country. Not everyone can take the vaccine. The ones who don’t but should may get sick, just like people have in the past regarding flu. The vaccine is still in the experimental phase. The disease is really most harmful to older people, and the vast majority of those older people have received their vaccine.
And until the border is secure and the federal government doesn’t just allow covid infected people in willy-nilly, they can GFT if they think they can punish US citizens who refuse vaccine.
Not true.
From 2017:
“ A hospital system in Minnesota has fired approximately 50 healthcare workers for refusing flu shots, igniting a battle with a nurses’ union that is filing grievances to restore personnel to their jobs.” https://www.reliasmedia.com/articles...sing-flu-shots
“ In the Army, mandatory flu shots are commonplace.
Dr. Lee Norman, chief medical officer at the University of Kansas Hospital and a surgeon in the 35th Infantry Division of Task Force Spartan, says getting a flu shot is part of the job.
“We just did 11,000 mandatory flu shots in the last 10 days with my infantry division. Believe me, they have no ‘opt out’ choice unless there are medical contraindications. To my knowledge, we didn’t have any exemption requests,” Norman told Healthline.”
“ A hospital system in Minnesota has fired approximately 50 healthcare workers for refusing flu shots, igniting a battle with a nurses’ union that is filing grievances to restore personnel to their jobs.” https://www.reliasmedia.com/articles...sing-flu-shots
“ In the Army, mandatory flu shots are commonplace.
Dr. Lee Norman, chief medical officer at the University of Kansas Hospital and a surgeon in the 35th Infantry Division of Task Force Spartan, says getting a flu shot is part of the job.
“We just did 11,000 mandatory flu shots in the last 10 days with my infantry division. Believe me, they have no ‘opt out’ choice unless there are medical contraindications. To my knowledge, we didn’t have any exemption requests,” Norman told Healthline.”
Mandatory to keep a job is one thing, especially for people who are frontline workers or teachers. I have no problem with that. But mandatory to go to a restaurant or fly or any of the other things people are talking about seems excessive to me. And it seems excessive to force a vaccine that hasn’t been approved by the FDA on regular city workers either.
Again, no one wants to address the fact that the federal government is allowing thousands of Covid-positive migrants to travel throughout the country?
Reality is that the two topics are related to what you posted, which was that people who refuse vaccine should suffer consequences. We have never done that for flu despite the fact that the flu does kill thousands of people every year (and I believe it did last year too even though it was attributed to the Covid death count).
Blame away, just be sure to blame everyone instead of just the ones you don’t like. But if that blame turns into policy then it’s not at all what this country stands for. We are supposedly a free country. Not everyone can take the vaccine. The ones who don’t but should may get sick, just like people have in the past regarding flu. The vaccine is still in the experimental phase. The disease is really most harmful to older people, and the vast majority of those older people have received their vaccine.
And until the border is secure and the federal government doesn’t just allow covid infected people in willy-nilly, they can GFT if they think they can punish US citizens who refuse vaccine.
The two are respiratory viruses - yes.
There have been (and are) consequences that extend beyond personal health for those who decline vaccination (Covid, flu, MMR, polio, etc) - yes
The two are epidemiologically identical - no.
The two have caused similar social and economic turmoil in a year - no.
The implications for public policy and health are the same for both vaccines - no.
Rejecting social responsibility during a full blown pandemic exposes one to scrutiny, blame, and restrictions on societal privileges - yes.
There have been (and are) consequences that extend beyond personal health for those who decline vaccination (Covid, flu, MMR, polio, etc) - yes
The two are epidemiologically identical - no.
The two have caused similar social and economic turmoil in a year - no.
The implications for public policy and health are the same for both vaccines - no.
Rejecting social responsibility during a full blown pandemic exposes one to scrutiny, blame, and restrictions on societal privileges - yes.
Hope this helps. Very best.
This is not polio or smallpox. Mandatory doesn’t seem to allow that people with natural immunity don’t need to take the vaccine because they have already had Covid and the vaccine triggers a severe immune response in them. The reason I compare flu and covid vaccine and not the MMR or polio vaccine is because those are a one or two shot deal and we don’t know if Covid will continually mutate like the flu and we have to take it every year and it still doesn’t protect everyone. We don’t even have long term data on the risks of the vaccine or the virus for that matter. This is experimental. It isn’t something that’s been tested for a decade before approval like the other vaccines.
This is not polio or smallpox. Mandatory doesn’t seem to allow that people with natural immunity don’t need to take the vaccine because they have already had Covid and the vaccine triggers a severe immune response in them. The reason I compare flu and covid vaccine and not the MMR or polio vaccine is because those are a one or two shot deal and we don’t know if Covid will continually mutate like the flu and we have to take it every year and it still doesn’t protect everyone. We don’t even have long term data on the risks of the vaccine or the virus for that matter. This is experimental. It isn’t something that’s been tested for a decade before approval like the other vaccines.
Hope this helps. Very best.
Again, I can only explain this in so many ways.
COVID poses a significant public health and economic burden on our society, on a magnitude that dwarfs the burden posed by the seasonal flu.
As such, the national interest and priority in combating COVID through data-proven strategies including vaccination, social distancing, masking, and excellent hand hygiene cannot be compared to the seasonal flu.
You can ignore this reality in your responses all you want, but it does not alter the reality that over 600,000 Americans have died from COVID since last year. It does not alter the deep economic impact COVID has had domestically and internationally.
There is no question that Americans see COVID as a top issue - the election showed us that. The best available data to date demonstrate benefits of vaccination and vaccination remains one of the most crucial and valuable weapon in combating disease burden in our nation.
What this poll I referenced illustrates is that vaccinated Americans who are being socially responsible are tired of the willfully unvaccinated. We have a raging public health crisis and most Americans have done their part to mitigate this national crisis.
Our patience for the selfishness of the willfully unvaccinated is running thin and policies moving forward will begin to reflect this evolving attitude. That’s what the poll is showing. You may not agree with it. You may not like the data.
But it is reality.
I hope this helps. Very best.
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