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That’s what we call limousine liberals. These same people tell you how to live, but they themselves live a whole other way. They are hypocrites.
They want to take away everyone's rights to enjoy themselves so they don't feel left out and so that everything is "fair" ... they buy their Teslas to virtue signal but the truth is consumption in general along with all the air travel they love, and those people that just HAVE to have their house at exactly 72 degrees year-round... the ruling class are the most guilty at blatantly ignoring any rule they would have the masses follow. They LOVE their private jets, large mansions, living life to the fullest.
No one ever indicated the earth wasn't warmer before, it was a rather unpleasant place to live at that time unless you were a lizard.
Arrogance is to think that burning fossil fuels which have been stored in the ground for billions of years can't change the climate. Maybe you have a scientific paper to back up your claim that increased levels of CO2 and other greenhouse gases don't heat up the earth, I will wait.
Really bad fires across the globe, the US west, Greece even Siberia on fire, just a bad summer?
So you admit that the earth was once an unpleasant place to live, yet the earth has survived through this unpleasantness? So you would agree the earth will survive through human nuisance?
Speaking of green house gases, you know water vapor is the most dominant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere? CO2 makes up .004% of the atmosphere. Like water vapor, CO2 isn’t a pollutant. Plants need CO2 to survive.
Fact is China is the biggest polluter on earth and they get a pass..WHY?
This is the only response necessary when someone suggests that citizens of the U.S. need to reduce their quality of life in any way due to climate change.
If China continues what they're doing, there's no point in anyone else doing anything at all. Anything we do will amount to nothing more than a gesture, and sorry to the climate zealots but I'm not giving up squat so they can feel like they "did something."
Anyone parroting the "U.S. is evil" narrative on the climate issue is lying or brainwashed. If they were knowledgeable and serious, the U.S. wouldn't even be an issue for them right now. China and India would have ALL of their attention.
If you entertain any other argument, you're giving it legitimacy.
That’s what we call limousine liberals. These same people tell you how to live, but they themselves live a whole other way. They are hypocrites.
Who cares what the elites say, all that matters is what the scientists active in their studies and research tell us. How YOU and I react to their information is what matters. Screw the elites.
This is the only response necessary when someone suggests that citizens of the U.S. need to reduce their quality of life in any way due to climate change.
If China continues what they're doing, there's no point in anyone else doing anything at all. Anything we do will amount to nothing more than a gesture, and sorry to the climate zealots but I'm not giving up squat so they can feel like they "did something."
Anyone parroting the "U.S. is evil" narrative on the climate issue is lying or brainwashed. If they were knowledgeable and serious, the U.S. wouldn't even be an issue for them right now. China and India would have ALL of their attention.
If you entertain any other argument, you're giving it legitimacy.
It’s not about reducing our quality of life, but in taking the lead in developing technology to ween us off fossil fuels…but instead China is taking the lead on that….and we will be buying their products.
Why don’t they ever talk about population control?
Wouldn’t lessening human population make the biggest impact?
We seem to still be encouraging huge families and no responsible birth control.
I agree population control would have made the biggest impact. If it had started 100 years ago. I think a decrease in population could still make an impact but I suspect that human intervention now would be far too slow and too late for such a decrease to make any difference to what's happening with the climate at this current time. Unless something happens very suddenly to cause a mass extinction that immediately lowers the existing population to 2 billion or less, even then it would likely still take about 10 years for the climate changes we're seeing happening now to start to slow down to a more normal and natural rate that's easier for the rest of nature to adjust and adapt to.
The way things are poking along now due to human resistance, stubborn obstruction and denial it's pretty clear that mother nature doesn't want to wait for humanity to take control of itself. Nature is stepping up to the plate and taking over and will be reducing the populations of all living things through world wide famine.
So you admit that the earth was once an unpleasant place to live, yet the earth has survived through this unpleasantness? So you would agree the earth will survive through human nuisance?
This is not the gotcha biish moment you think it is. Nobody is disputing that fact. Yes, when the planet was an unpleasant place to live, guess what, NO HUMANS WERE LIVING IN THAT PERIOD. And again, nobody is saying that the earth is somehow going to explode by humans dumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. It's just that this will have the effect that the planet will become inhabitable to any multicellular life. The planet will survive, life on the planet will not.
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Speaking of green house gases, you know water vapor is the most dominant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere? CO2 makes up .004% of the atmosphere. Like water vapor, CO2 isn’t a pollutant. Plants need CO2 to survive.
Water vapor does not control the Earth’s temperature, but is instead controlled by the temperature. This is because the temperature of the surrounding atmosphere limits the maximum amount of water vapor the atmosphere can contain.
"Some climate change deniers claim that the recent increase in carbon emissions should be of little concern because carbon is not a pollutant. It is true that element carbon is found naturally throughout the environment and is even considered a building block of life. It is true that animals, including human beings, breathe out carbon dioxide as a natural part of respiration. What is not true however, is the myth that just because carbon is a natural element it cannot be a pollutant. When humans burn carbon that has been sequestered underground for millions of years in form of fossil fuels we make carbon act as a pollutant. A pollutant is defined as a substance that has poisonous or harmful effects upon its introduction to the environment (Webster’s dictionary). When one understands this definition of pollutant it becomes easier to understand how carbon dioxide could be considered one."
Fact is God is in control of our climate. God speaks how in the last days when people grow corrupt, that natural disasters with take place, along with drought, floods, sickness, plagues, earthquakes will be ever increasing.
Cool story.
The shepherd and the sheep relationship is used to illustrate Christ's relationship to his followers who referred to him as 'our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep' (Hebrews 13:20). Jesus spoke of himself as 'the good shepherd who knew his sheep and would lay down his life for them' (John 10:7-18).
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If China continues what they're doing, there's no point in anyone else doing anything at all. Anything we do will amount to nothing more than a gesture, and sorry to the climate zealots but I'm not giving up squat so they can feel like they "did something."
This is a good point.
However, despite deep-seated political and economic tensions, we have worked with China on this issue in the past. In 2014, we saw expanded collaboration among Chinese and American companies, scientists, and experts on clean energy and carbon-capture technologies. A joint commitment to reduce emissions was agreed upon. Much of that cooperation stopped under Trump, who took a confrontational stance toward China and questioned the science of climate change.
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This can be handled quite easily. Rolling lockdowns, world wide. Massive restrictions on food, travel, and commerce for 99% of the population. The 1% can continue with their private jets and freedoms. We're practicing for this now--- so we should nail it 2-3 years tops.
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