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Soooo ... maybe it's time for Lefties to cut the crap and start supporting the greenest energy source on earth: Nuclear Energy.
The Left's unending crusade against nuclear is easily the biggest obstacle standing in the way of humanity actually getting a handle on greenhouse gases.
Soooo ... maybe it's time for Lefties to cut the crap and start supporting the greenest energy source on earth: Nuclear Energy.
The Left's unending crusade against nuclear is easily the biggest obstacle standing in the way of humanity actually getting a handle on greenhouse gases.
See I want to have a discussion with yall, but the blatant hyper-partisan "lefty", "righty" nonsense is so nauseating to read. I dont know why this CD forum has drunk so much partisan kool aid. We can't have college conversations talking like elementary schoolers.
The "lefties" are not against nuclear energy. Even after the nuclear disaster in Japan in 2011, you didnt have worldwide cries to "defund" nuclear energy. Everyone understands while there's a risk of meltdown, nuclear is still a better option than coal.
Literally the only sworn enemy that people (all over the political spectrum) see is coal and fossil fuels. Republicans and conservatives will even admit fossil fuels is the problem. The biggest thing holding them back is that these energy companies lobby harder and donate to the GOP politicians, who then say "its not that bad" to the populace. That and the fact those energy jobs are tied mostly in red areas: which is why people should understand by now that this is not globalization.
The jobs that are lost will actually be replaced. You literally cannot take energy jobs away and then put them somewhere else because: everyone needs energy. Everyone doesn't need a car manufacturing plant, but everyone needs energy. Do yall seriously believe folks want West Virginia to be stripped of their coal industry...and then get nothing else in return? How else is WV supposed to get power? And those who lose those jobs will be more qualified for this new wave of jobs than anyone else.
People act like fighting climate change is such a demanding task. On an individual level, it really isn't...
Fine, take all the carbon generated technology away from China and Africa and India and all these places that we “gave” this tech to. What a colossal screw up.
Is there a shortened version of your screed? There is not a point you posted that is evidence of man-made climate change.
97% of climate scientists do not believe that there is man caused climate change.
Are you having a serious problem with reading comprehension? I think you need to go back and read that person's post again, very slowly and carefully so it all sinks in.
"The most abundant greenhouse gas overall, water vapor differs from other greenhouse gases in that changes in its atmospheric concentrations are linked not to human activities directly, but rather to the warming that results from the other greenhouse gases we emit. Warmer air holds more water. And since water vapor is a greenhouse gas, more water absorbs more heat, inducing even greater warming and perpetuating a positive feedback loop. (It’s worth noting, however, that the net impact of this feedback loop is still uncertain, as increased water vapor also increases cloud cover that reflects the sun’s energy away from the earth.)"
"As the temperature of the atmosphere rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage (rivers, oceans, reservoirs, soil). Because the air is warmer, the absolute humidity can be higher (in essence, the air is able to 'hold' more water when it's warmer), leading to more water vapor in the atmosphere. As a greenhouse gas, the higher concentration of water vapor is then able to absorb more thermal IR energy radiated from the Earth, thus further warming the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere can then hold more water vapor and so on and so on. This is referred to as a 'positive feedback loop'. However, huge scientific uncertainty exists in defining the extent and importance of this feedback loop. As water vapor increases in the atmosphere, more of it will eventually also condense into clouds, which are more able to reflect incoming solar radiation (thus allowing less energy to reach the Earth's surface and heat it up). The future monitoring of atmospheric processes involving water vapor will be critical to fully understand the feedbacks in the climate system leading to global climate change. As yet, though the basics of the hydrological cycle are fairly well understood, we have very little comprehension of the complexity of the feedback loops. Also, while we have good atmospheric measurements of other key greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane, we have poor measurements of global water vapor, so it is not certain by how much atmospheric concentrations have risen in recent decades or centuries, though satellite measurements, combined with balloon data and some in-situ ground measurements indicate generally positive trends in global water vapor."
Even the warmer sites can't totally ignore the obvious.
A slight increase of surface temperature increases the concentration of water vapor in the atmosphere.
More water vapor increases the feedback effect, but it never becomes self-perpetuating because the net effect is cooling, else the atmosphere would get hotter and hotter as the oceans release more water vapor.
Since that doesn't happen and has never happened, even when CO2 levels were much, much higher, the evidence shows that the oceans regulate surface temperature by releasing water vapor that becomes clouds that block the sun and rain that releases heat high in the atmosphere.
Does CO2 have a feedback effect?
Yes, it does.
Does it matter?
The lack of a temperature spike accompanying the doubling of CO2 indicates no, it doesn't matter.
The Earth has been a step ahead of us the whole time.
I keep starting sentences, but then deleting them. I can't quite find the words to describe what I think of the above. It's so... lacking. In understanding. Of everything. If this is representative of how the average person thinks, then I completely understand the climate hysteria. It finally makes sense.
I don't know why you felt the need to tell me about your problems since there's nothing I can do to help you. But have no fear, I won't hold your current inadequacies of comprehension skills against you. Sorry you're so slow catching on but I have the highest of confidence in you that you'll catch up later while having your own hysterics because your belly-button is in close contact and communion with your lumbar vertebrae. Carry on.
Fine, take all the carbon generated technology away from China and Africa and India and all these places that we “gave” this tech to. What a colossal screw up.
Yeah, we would have been better off if we kept the rest of the planet in undeveloped poverty while we kept all the technology we invented for ourselves. And then once we managed to reach a sustainable space age civilization, then we could have shared that tech with the rest of the planet. Hindsight is a mofo!
Perhaps the reason you are clueless about this subject is because you are reading the “shortened versions.” There is no short version of climate change. It’s a complex phenomenon that can’t be explained in snappy soundbytes.
Your screed is just a rambling. There isn’t a single point you make evidence of man caused climate change. You’re a “True Believer.”
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I think you need to go back and read that person's post again, very slowly and carefully so it all sinks in.
