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The mayor of Fargo, where the riot happened, is a Democrat.
If I'm not mistaken, the Fargo riot was instigated by a bunch of idiotic starry-eyed white-liberal college students from across the river in Moorhead. I also seem to recall that the Fargo police were quick to restore order when things started getting out of hand.
From what I've heard, pooping in public is very much related to the Portland experience.
Not common, and way more dog poop not picked up. Just the other day we got stopped by a broken train right by a local encampment. The facilities were comparable to smaller state parks.
Portland was already depressing years ago. I used to fly into Portland then drive out to fish the Oregon rivers. Portland had the same depressing vibe as Seattle, at least the last times I was in those cities. I can see where the sentiments of "grunge" came from.
It's new and it's not new. My first trip to Seattle was around 20 years ago. It wasn't exactly new then either. Homeless tents in Occidental Square (Pioneer's Square neighborhood, tourist trap), aggressive panhandling. About 15 years ago when I moved there after college and lived in Beltown in a sublet window faced down Prostitutes Alley. Not uncommon to here some ruckus and there was a John getting some service. Parking in my building was $400/month, Shiro's sushi downstairs, bunch of cocktail bars and fancy restaurants, and of course Prostitute Alley. Portland wasn't much far off Seattle back then.
Then what happened was COVID. Everyone normal went away and the homeless took over. Portland's got the added benefit of hosting the antifa and Proud Boys maroons pretending it's movie set for Gang's of Portland, Basement Dwellers Riot Fantasies III. But I've been in SF and even San Jose since COVID and downtown is just other worldly wasteland. Junkies passed out on the stairs down to BART with a bunch of used heroin syringes lying on the ground. Gave that one a prod to see if it was dead and called the cops. Came back an hour later and he'd picked up his syringes and made it to the side of the staircase. Maybe the cops got him that far, didn't seem like he was capable of moving that far on his own power. Maybe he just came to a bit and moved over before shoving another needle in. Impression from dispatch was basically unless he's dead we ain't sending anyone for another junkie on the street.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Fargo riot was instigated by a bunch of idiotic starry-eyed white-liberal college students from across the river in Moorhead.
Most likely mainly white, as it seems to have been with most of the protests/riots across the country.
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I also seem to recall that the Fargo police were quick to restore order when things started getting out of hand.
I haven't done much research into what happened in Fargo.
Seems there were several days of protests and one day of rioting. Several dozen injured and seems to have been significant damage to buildings in the city. I don't know how many were arrested, if anyone was arrested or if there were those who'd been arrested were released without charges(like seemed to often happen with those who'd been arrested across the country)
I would not even want to drive through there on the Interstate. I would probably take the coast highway and pass it by.
A whole different animal. We drove up the coast from Dana Point CA and up to the far upper left of Washington's Olympic Pen., before finally traveling over to Portland 8/1. And Portland itself is a whole different animal than last summer.
Nobody wants to move there. Nobody wants to move to Republican run cities, either. For instance, Tulsa is so desperate for new people that it will pay you $10,000 to move there and be a remote worker. Rather than be paid to move to Tulsa just who knows how many thousands of people would far rather move to Portland, due to the much, much better scenery, led by Mt. Hood? Better weather, too.
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We used to go to Portland for the day or overnight 3-4 times a year. After a year+ off due to Covid, we went there again in May 2021, and were shocked to see that the homeless and graffiti had become as bad as Seattle. We still go, but not as often to our favorite places there like the Rose Garden and Portland Nursery, but we won't go near downtown or stay overnight.
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